Students Are Pushing Back Against Gender Ideology In Their Schools

[ImmortalFlame]

So you are stating an objective definition

No, I'm not.

that there is no such thing as an objective definition.

That is true. There is no such thing.

And you don't even see the paradox and irony. Hilarious!

Would you mind explaining the paradox, exactly?

By definition those are males. Males who happen to have a Swyer syndrome.

No, they're biological females. Unless you want to express the opinion that men can have fallopian tubes, ovaries and vaginas, which is a thing I'd agree with, but I doubt is something you'd wish to state.

All you are doing is substituting one objective definition for another.

So, there can be multiple objective definitions, now? Is there another word for that other than "objective", perhaps?

All the while criticizing using objective definition.

Once again, there is no such thing as an "objective definition".

Definition of Y CHROMOSOME

"Characteristic of..." "typically"

Sounds deliberately subjective.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

YES! Now you are starting to understand. A person with Swyer syndrome is a male that happens to have nonfunctioning uteri and fallopian tubes. A male can have lactating breasts, uteri, fallopian tubes and still be a male. You want to exploit use extremely rare conditions such as Swyer syndrome, which only occurs in 1 person out of 80,000, to support your erroneous position. A male is defined on the cellular level where the person has a Y chromosome. The external appearance notwithstanding. They may live a lifestyle that is nominally female, but genetically they are males.

I see.

So, your working understanding of male and female is one that doesn't even remotely possibly apply in any social circumstances and has nothing to do with the social construct of gender; you're talking exclusively about cells and NOT applying that standard in any social way whatsoever, correct?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Redheads are rare, (about as rare as intersex conditions, actually) we don’t discount their existence as a result.

Unfortunately there are some real ****s who still hold that against us. Not many, but I have been stereotype by it, including people thinking I'm explosively angry and a prime candidate for anger management. Some people even deny there is prejudice against us, despite some bungholes thinking "kick a ginger day" is a swell idea.
It's the same with left handedness. Those fart knockers are rare today, but indeed there are those outright dismiss left handedness and insist people use their right hand instead.

 

[SomeRandom]

Unfortunately there are some real ****s who still hold that against us. Not many, but I have been stereotype by it, including people thinking I'm explosively angry and a prime candidate for anger management. Some people even deny there is prejudice against us, despite some bungholes thinking "kick a ginger day" is a swell idea.
It's the same with left handedness. Those fart knockers are rare today, but indeed there are those outright dismiss left handedness and insist people use their right hand instead.

 

[syo]

Personally, I think we could save a lot of money and angst by not worrying so much about who might be sitting in the next toilet stall. It is rather humorous that bathrooms are so much at the center of transgender politics. Having traveled to many countries in my life, I've come to understand that it is possible to survive in places even where they have unisex toilets.

Disgusting.

 

[We Never Know]

So what? It's a piece of cloth. Who cares?

... Well, obviously you.

Too bad you and several here care more about pronouns than you do the American flag.

You all want to call it "just a piece of material" but yet are getting all butt hurt over just a word/pronoun.

 

[We Never Know]

Seriously?

I didn't fight for the ****ing flag. Not once in my decade of service.

What did you fight for? The US? Freedom? Rights?..... They all are tied to the flag.

 

[Father Heathen]

What did you fight for? The US? Freedom? Rights?..... They all are tied to the flag.

The flag represents them, but their existence isn't dependent upon the flag. Flags aren't voodoo dolls, where harming the flag somehow harms our rights, freedoms, democracy, country, etc. People need to sac up and get over something that's so inconsequential.

 

[Father Heathen]

Disgusting.

Eww, cooties!

 

[SkepticThinker]

Of course not! If I happen upon a stranger that looks like a female, but this person claims to be male, I will assume this is one of those males that just looks like a female and refer to them as a male. I've seen plenty of lesbians that look like dudes, and visa versa.

Right. So, what's the big issue then?

I've mistaken my own mother-in-law for a man from the back on more than one occasion, when I've been searching for her in a crowd (please don't tell her that!). I've also met a few people where I wasn't entirely sure of their gender, so I just played it by ear until they made it clear to me how they wanted to be identified. I just don't see what the big problem is, because it's not like this is a new thing or something, so how about we just call people what they prefer to be called and just get on with it already?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Too bad you and several here care more about pronouns than you do the American flag.

You all want to call it "just a piece of material" but yet are getting all butt hurt over just a word/pronoun.

Well, let's see. The former involves an inanimate object that feels nothing. While the latter involves human beings who have human emotions and are affected by the way others treat them.

You seem to be more "butt hurt" over the former, but not so much about the latter. Perhaps you need to re-assess your priorities?

 

[The Hammer]

Too bad you and several here care more about pronouns than you do the American flag.

You all want to call it "just a piece of material" but yet are getting all butt hurt over just a word/pronoun.

Yeah, there is a difference between disrespecting a person, and an not respecting an object.

People over things.

I'm as patriotic as anyone, which I think you seem to think flag burning is unpatriotic (I didn't join the military because I hate the US). The flag is just a flag. It does not have needs, thoughts or emotions.

People do.

 

[The Hammer]

The US? Freedom? Rights?..... They all are tied to the flag.

Nope, those are tied to the US Constitution, and the governmental body that allows those freedoms to exist, and the people who exercise those freedoms of expression.

The flag is a symbol of those things. But it is not them.

Burning the flag does not prevent those things from existing. In fact that's part of freedom of expression.

 

[The Hammer]

See this is why "pledging allegiance to the flag" everyday for over a decade as children, is not the best idea.

People mix up what is really important for maintaining freedom. Mad it isn't some allegiance to a flag.

 

[metis]

I foresee this trend growing larger.

"Students at a Massachusetts middle school showed their opposition to Pride month by chanting, “USA Are My Pronouns,” through the school halls and wore red, white, and blue clothing and face paint."......

"The growing trend goes back as far as 2021, when a 15-year-old went viral for a speech ripping into his school board for critical race theory-infused teachings in their curriculum.".....

"High school students in Ottawa, Canada, are also staging a walkout to protest what they saw as inappropriate content in their curriculums"....

MSN

Yes, some will always choose discrimination over fairness.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What did you fight for? The US? Freedom? Rights?..... They all are tied to the flag.

No, a flag is nothing more than a glorified hanky. It's a cloth. It's a piece of material. It means many things to many people, but in an emergemcy it's a makeshift tournequit. That's because it's nothing more than a rextangular piece if fabric.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why? The one group has nothing to do with the other.

Sure they haven't.

 

[Shaul]

He didn't have the technology or knowledgeable of biology, medicine or neuropsychology we have today.
Try again, oh ye obvious layman.

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It does. Because if the precense of Y makes on a male, even those declared girls at birth and don't know their condition, then it must stamd more Ys makes someone more manly. It's all ablit biology and genetics, and they have more man juice than you.

It doesn't take modern knowledge to know that death is certain. But don't let anyone try to stop you from imagining it isn't. It won't change the facts though.

 

[Shaul]

They’re not nonfunctioning, though???
With egg donation (a common practice used by cis individuals as well) pregnancy and births have been successful in such cases.
It’s not medically reccomended, due to increased risks associated with the “process.” But it’s been a successful practice nonetheless. Resulting in people born with Swyer Syndrome becoming pregnant with and then giving birth to children. Despite their Y chromosome
Which is a biological process typically associated with females in our species, due to their “equipment.”

I think you’re thinking of the general rule when it comes to intersex conditions in the human species. Iow that pregnancy is typically not possible due to nonfunctioning equipment or not possessing all equipment necessary.
But in biology for every rule there seems to be an exception and Swyer Syndrome is it (in this case)

Also science doesn’t give a damn about the frequency of an occurrence.
Redheads are rare, (about as rare as intersex conditions, actually) we don’t discount their existence as a result.
People with Swyer Syndrome exist and their mere existence shatters the notion of human beings having a binary sex characteristic distribution. Never mind the various other intersex conditions known to occur in our species, which occurs at a higher rate, just fyi
XX male syndrome, for example. Which is when a person is born with male sex characteristics despite having two X chromosomes. And of course there’s Hermaphroditism and a whole spectrum of other known occurrences.

Gee a lot of men have non-functioning nipples too. By your logic all people are females.

 

[Shaul]

No, I'm not.

So you are stating there are no objective definitions. Congratulations. You have now ensured you are always wrong.