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Student's At It Again.

esmith

Veteran Member
I really don't care what they do at Harvard. I just think it is stupid to worry about what a word might mean, "masters" for one and a seal that just happens to include a crest of someone that in this case was a slave owner. Question, how many of our founding fathers were slave owners? Want to eradicate any mention of them today? This to me is that there are those who have too much time on their hands doing something that really does not affect what they are attempting to gain from, in this going to Harvard . If they attempt anything like this in the "real world" I do not see a future for them except in some organization that does not make any real contribution to the world.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I really don't care what they do at Harvard.
You care enough to make a thread taunting what they are doing at Harvard.
If they attempt anything like this in the "real world" I do not see a future for them except in some organization that does not make any real contribution to the world.
Give me a break. Did a college student bully you has a toddler or something? Your prejudice/bias is unbelievable.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
No I just had numerous bad experiences with some that come out of institutes of higher learning and think that just because they did so they know more about the job than those that had been working at it for many years. However, the majority of them admitted that they new little or nothing about the job but were willing to lean and keep them out of trouble.
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
I really don't care what they do at Harvard.
Which is why you continued on with the following.
I just think it is stupid to worry about what a word might mean, "masters" for one and a seal that just happens to include a crest of someone that in this case was a slave owner. Question, how many of our founding fathers were slave owners? Want to eradicate any mention of them today? This to me is that there are those who have too much time on their hands doing something that really does not affect what they are attempting to gain from, in this going to Harvard . If they attempt anything like this in the "real world" I do not see a future for them except in some organization that does not make any real contribution to the world.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Question, how many of our founding fathers were slave owners? Want to eradicate any mention of them today?
The thing is, often only the far-right wants to cover that fact up, because it makes their patriotism and dedication to "original intent" seem really bad (such as with their rants of the "new" AP American history standards). Getting rid of a seal, or a statue, or whatever are not attempts to erase or forget history, but efforts to acknowledge it is not just bad and inappropriate to glorify such a thing, we need not be bound and shackled to the past. Afterall, we don't wave Crusade banners around or erect statues of Conquistadors because of those horrible things happening in the past and we need them to remind us. Having Mein Kampf available to be read is one thing, and something that can help us learn about history, but we don't need Hitler Statues and Nazi flags to remind us.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The thing is, often only the far-right wants to cover that fact up, because it makes their patriotism and dedication to "original intent" seem really bad (such as with their rants of the "new" AP American history standards). Getting rid of a seal, or a statue, or whatever are not attempts to erase or forget history, but efforts to acknowledge it is not just bad and inappropriate to glorify such a thing, we need not be bound and shackled to the past. Afterall, we don't wave Crusade banners around or erect statues of Conquistadors because of those horrible things happening in the past and we need them to remind us. Having Mein Kampf available to be read is one thing, and something that can help us learn about history, but we don't need Hitler Statues and Nazi flags to remind us.

So you have no problem with removing any reference to the term "masters" because in one and only one instance does it have anything to do with slavery?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
So you have no problem with removing any reference to the term "masters" because in one and only one instance does it have anything to do with slavery?
Actually that one I do have a problem with, because it is unrelated to slavery. Much how the word niggardly is etymologically unrelated to the racial slur that traces it's roots back to the Spanish/Portuguese word negro.
But I do think "master" is a funny title, because no one hast truly mastered anything worthy of the effort.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes each generation is starting to become more sooky, I don't know where it will end.
We were in trouble the moment the system learned how to make the Hippy generation docile and complacent. Things like cell phones and cheap junk from Walmart have not helped.
Like your sig, by the way.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
We were in trouble the moment the system learned how to make the Hippy generation docile and complacent. Things like cell phones and cheap junk from Walmart have not helped.
Like your sig, by the way.
Yes evey generation is to blame, but the generations coming up here and now are just too lame for words, and of course that doesn't mean all of them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I agree with changing the crest but dropping "Master" from academic titles is lame.
For a year back in the 90s, it was illegal for us licensed real estate brokers to use the term "master bedroom".
No ****.....they told us this in our continuing education classes.
Some SJWs were all worked up over 'discriminatory' language, eg, "great view", "walk in closet", "family room", which offend the blind, the non-ambulatory & singles.
Fortunately, this admonition disappeared in subsequent years.
I guess the ones who were so upset found some other cause to occupy their attention.
 

McBell

Unbound
For a year back in the 90s, it was illegal for us licensed real estate brokers to use the term "master bedroom".
No ****.....they told us this in our continuing education classes.
Some SJWs were all worked up over 'discriminatory' language, eg, "great view", "walk in closet", "family room", which offend the blind, the non-ambulatory & singles.
Fortunately, this admonition disappeared in subsequent years.
I guess the ones who were so upset found some other cause to occupy their attention.
I am waiting for the lawsuit against the makers of Tylenol to stop using cotton in their bottles because it might offend someone.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I agree with changing the crest but dropping "Master" from academic titles is lame.

This. While it is a part of history it doesn't need to serve be a current day representation of anything. I can understand people's desire not to honor a brutal slave owner.
However, treating "master" as a dirty word regardless of context is a laughable joke.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Well it seems that the students are at it again and this time it is at Harvard Law School. Seems that a seal includes the crest of a notoriously brutal 18th Century slave owner and the students want it changed.

And that's a problem because. . . ?

It also seem the school will no longer use the term "master" in academic titles, because of connotations of slavery.

That's going a little over-board, but hey, they're kids. If you want to blame someone blame whoever it was on the faculty who made that decision.

So what next you brain-dead idiots,

You mean these brain dead idiots:

"Harvard is one of themost prestigious universities in the world.

The Cambridge, Massachusetts, school acceptedjust 5.9%of roughly 34,000 applications for its class of 2018. As Harvard President Drew Gilpin Faust recently said, "We could fill our class twice over with valedictorians."

The school seeks out students who not only have high grades, but also have outstanding achievements under their belts."
from herehttp://www.businessinsider.com/things-harder-than-getting-to-harvard-2014-9


Poor little rich kids, your mommy not teach you there is a real world out there.

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-35726878

"Poor little rich kids":

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http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/9/4/freshman-survey-admissions-aid/

Ya know esmith? I've seen you be unfair before, but I don't think I've ever seen you be unfair on so many fronts all at the same time before.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Old joke.....
Guy wheels a shopping cart with 13 items up to a cashier.
The sign says "12 items or less".
Cashier asks him....
"Are you from Harvard, & can't count...or MIT, & can't read?"
 
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