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Subjectivity and religion

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Is your religion subjective?

If your religion isn't subjective, then everything about your religion isn't subjective?


same texts, different religions
 
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MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
I was just considering a post about Renaissance Humanism for John Calvin's team. How are people attempting to fight a '2nd protestant reformation' in the PCUSA, is it related to this? How are they "Always Reforming".
What I know for Presbyterianism, is that this very specific application is about studying the classical Greek. Its about how the education system itself was about not applying your brain to chants, recitations, and phrases of Latin. Repeat Repeat all done. John Calvin wanted the true word of God spread as far and wide and in Every profession that isn't being a minister. Every profession would create some sort of knowledge on God about town. Renaissance Humanism, well actually is very close with the fall of Constantinople and Byzantium, because of the abundance of migrating Greek scholars. The Wiki is correct to not even suggest a link to renaissance humanism and an evolution to humanism, this is a modern phrase that could easily totally destroy a very small topic from ancient Europe. I just like Keats' Sailing to Byzantium" in highlighting the themes. I'm sure 1000 years ago the idea that the Pope was part of a Pentarchy would be a very ancient Classical sort of discussion. 1000 years of no good Popes he said.
Renaissance humanism - Wikipedia
Sailing to Byzantium by William Butler Yeats
Fundamentalist–Modernist controversy - Wikipedia

If we are Allowed to disassociate to Humanism, then who knows. The religion may be very subjective. Almost exactly 100 years now the Presbyterians ascendant in America have felt the need to respond to human moral trends, long ago the Pope was no longer denounced, AntiChrist. Recently, for human moral concerns, the "Westminster Confession***" was also changed for a marriage to be any 'two committed people" purposeful vagueness?***Please note you can't have a subscription for the Church of England, Ireland, Scotland, and America where each one is changing contracts.
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Where faith and religion are concerned I think it impossible not to be subjective.
If you have one 'bad option', of interpretation, and one 'better option' of religious interpretation, which one do you choose? Why would necessary subjectivity be a better option?
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
If you have one 'bad option', of interpretation, and one 'better option' of religious interpretation, which one do you choose? Why would necessary subjectivity be a better option?

I don't see it as an 'option'.
It is not possible to understand any written text without “pre-understanding,” i.e., presuppositions which guide comprehension.
Interpreting the Bible entails an act of human understanding like the act of understanding any other ancient writing,
Since interpretation of the Bible involves the subjectivity of the interpreter, understanding is only possible if there is a fundamental affinity between the interpreter and his object.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If you have one 'bad option', of interpretation, and one 'better option' of religious interpretation, which one do you choose? Why would necessary subjectivity be a better option?
There is a traditional way of handling this in Judaism, and that is that if an interpretation defies reason, go with reason and look for an alternative interpretation.
 
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