Suffering

[SalixIncendium]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

 

[VoidCat]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

I don't know...I think so far it seems to just be a fact of life and I couldn't tell you why some suffer and others don't.

 

[Vinayaka]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

Life. We all suffer. To think one can live a life free from suffering is folly. Even the self-realised suffer, albeit theirs will be purely physical, as the emotions have been detached. So emotional attachment does compound it, but detachment can't eliminate it.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

It is something trap-like. Perhaps you might have a theological tool to deal with pain suffering (like meditation perhaps?) , but it would be better to evade it slickly , rather than to don armor and wade through it. Yet who can evade it that totally

 

[Eddi]

In your view, from where does suffering come?

I believe that suffering comes from fallen nature of humankind and of planet Earth

When humans lived in a state of nature as God's pets in paradise there was no suffering

But after the fall (in which Adam and Eve decided to go their own way) God gave them what they wanted and set the difficulty settings from "novice" to "realistic" and suffering began as a fact of life

So natural evil occurred as well as human evil

That's what my religion teaches, anyway

 

[Audie]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

There are a lot of sources.

No attitude is going to help reduce or prevent suffering if you fall into the hands of someone who takes pleasure in hurting you.

Won't help with dengue, either.

Suffering is the result of having a nervous system.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Life. We all suffer. To think one can live a life free from suffering is folly. Even the self-realised suffer, albeit theirs will be purely physical, as the emotions have been detached. So emotional attachment does compound it, but detachment can't eliminate it.

There are a lot of sources.

No attitude is going to help reduce or prevent suffering if you fall into the hands of someone who takes pleasure in hurting you.

Won't help with dengue, either.

Suffering is the result of having a nervous system.

I make a distinction between pain (which I have this morning) and suffering. Pain (physical or emotional) is inevitable. Pain is just an object in my consciousness. Suffering is a reaction to that object. It's how one reacts to the pain that causes suffering.

The Buddhist parable of the two arrows sort of sums this up.

 

[Heyo]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

Laziness and stupidity. If I had tidied up my room or remembered where I put that damn box, I wouldn't have stubbed my toe.

 

[epronovost]

In your view, from where does suffering come?

It's a physiological reaction to extanded damage caused to our body and/or mind by our environment, other agents in it and/or even ourselves in some rarer cases.

 

[Audie]

I make a distinction between pain (which I have this morning) and suffering. Pain (physical or emotional) is inevitable. Pain is an object in my consciousness. Suffering is a reaction to that object. It's how one reacts to the pain that causes suffering.

The Buddhist parable of the two arrows sort of sums this up.

I suffered a lot, still do, when Mom died.
I've no interest in being so detached as not to
care.

 

[epronovost]

I suffered a lot, still do, when Mom died.
I've no interest in being so detached as not to
care.

As Emily DIckenson once wrote, the price we pay for love is measured in grief.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I suffered a lot, still do, when Mom died.
I've no interest in being so detached as not to
care.

I don't see detachment as lack of care. Once can still care, but not remain attached to the point where one identifies someone's death as a part of themselves.

I suffered when my daughter died. A lot. I was attached. Very attached. Once I broke that attachment, I broke free of the suffering. Does this mean I don't care? No. Does this mean I don't feel pain when I think about it? No. I just don't attach myself to these emotions.

 

[Quagmire]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

Relatives.

 

[pearl]

Suffering, as well as evil, is a spin off of life without which is neither.

 

[Audie]

I don't see detachment as lack of care. Once can still care, but not remain attached to the point where one identifies someone's death as a part of themselves.

I suffered when my daughter died. A lot. I was attached. Very attached. Once I broke that attachment, I broke free of the suffering. Does this mean I don't care? No. Does this mean I don't feel pain when I think about it? No. I just don't attach myself to these emotions.[/QUOTJoe.
I will break free too. I'm not ready to yet.
Mental hygiene!
Ive a relative with a mother from hell.
He finally just severed all attachment, he had to.

Its not something you can fake, as you know.

 

[Spirit of Light]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

I agree with your view too @SalixIncendium sin is just a abrahamic word for what you called attachment and desire

 

[Secret Chief]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

Pretty much this. Craving is the root of suffering.

 

[Thief]

In another thread, it was suggested that suffering is a result of past sins. While I have no concept of "sin" in my worldview, I see suffering as a result of attachment and desire.

In your view, from where does suffering come?

I heard somewhere......suffering is what you allow
that you suffer because of someone else
that you suffer circumstance you created

but I also hear the word .......grace
used in the same way

 

[Audie]

I agree with your view too @SalixIncendium sin is just a abrahamic word for what you called attachment and desire

Hmm.

Maybe we are on the same wave length here, for a change.

Mom expressed it differently, it translates from
Cantonese roughly as
' self indulgence is the root of all evil "

ETA some things listed as sins have nothing to do with
attachment or desire

 

[Audie]

Pretty much this. Craving is the root of suffering.

Define craving, svp?