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Supporting Trump, now a religion?

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Many economists? No source, link, nothing? Is one of these "economists" Stephen Moore? Lmao.

Trump has done nothing. He had no effect on any of that. It's a distraction and you fell for it.

Sources, got one? I think we both know where you're learning this stuff.


If you are not aware of the extreme bias of the LW media, you are living in lala land.


“The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us.”
C.S. Lewis
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
What did he do?

If you think I hate anyone, you are blinded by ignorance. Ignorance leads o bigotry.


“The Christian does not think God will love us because we are good, but that God will make us good because He loves us.”
C.S. Lewis

The 'American Jobs Act' for one. It was blocked by Republicans. His 'First Jobs' plan to help young people get their first job.

All it takes is a google search and some semblance of an open mind.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
If you are not aware of the extreme bias of the LW media, you are living in lala land.
Extreme bias? If you think normal journalistic outlets are 'extreme bias,' what do you call Fox?

I don't watch news for bias, I watch news for facts. Facts that can be backed up with evidence.

I'd advise you to stop getting information from the republican establishment. They don't care about you.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Extreme bias? If you think normal journalistic outlets are 'extreme bias,' what do you call Fox?

I don't watch news for bias, I watch news for facts. Facts that can be backed up with evidence.

I'd advise you to stop getting information from the republican establishment. They don't care about you.
I think that may have been the greatest conservative accomplishment, in getting half of the nation to believe that normal news is "left wing".
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I think that may have been the greatest conservative accomplishment, in getting half of the nation to believe that normal news is "left wing".
Oh ya, it's a propaganda technique. Demonize the opposition to the point where no one in their right mind would ever EVER consider supporting the democratic party. I hear conservatives all the time repeat this. Which is why the always settle for the republican establishment because at least they're not those 'evil commie liberal snowflakes..." They hate democrats because they're lazy, urban, welfare leaches. The race card comes into this demonization and plays to the audiences feelings. This way they don't want to vote for the party that those brown and black people vote for.

Fourteen Propaganda Techniques Fox ''News'' Uses to Brainwash Americans
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
The 'American Jobs Act' for one. It was blocked by Republicans. His 'First Jobs' plan to help young people get their first job.

All it takes is a google search and some semblance of an open mind.


When I have time I will look into it and get back to you. The fact it was blocked shows he was trying to do something. What did Obama eve do to help young people get a job.

Young people don't need any help getting their first job. Fast food restraunts alwasys have a "help wanted" sign in their windows.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Extreme bias? If you think normal journalistic outlets are 'extreme bias,' what do you call Fox?

Fair and balanced. ;)

I don't watch news for bias, I watch news for facts. Facts that can be backed up with evidence.

You should also watch it for bias. Biased news is not the truth.

I'd advise you to stop getting information from the republican establishment. They don't care about you.

I's advise you to stop getting information from the 3 major networks. They don't care about you or anyone else. They are only interested in getting their very biased LW agenda accepted.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
You made the accusation, be specific.
I made no such accusation. You demanded to know what Obama had done - in fact, you were the one to call him "do-nothing Obama" - and I provided a link (hint: that's what the blue text is) to a list of 50 things that he accomplished during his presidency.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Fair and balanced. ;)
Fox has never been fair or balanced. It's a trick.


You should also watch it for bias. Biased news is not the truth.
How do you know bias isn't the truth? Depends on the statement and if it's factually correct. After watching all news outlets on all sides, RW media bias is more often lying than other outlets. By a large factor too.
Fox is entertainment and opinion. And MSNBC has higher ratings.
I's advise you to stop getting information from the 3 major networks. They don't care about you or anyone else. They are only interested in getting their very biased LW agenda accepted.
Except these networks have credible history and journalists. They set the standard for journalism, Fox hasn't won a single award for journalism in their history.
Fake news only works when you tell everyone that the credible journalists are the real 'fake' news.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Fox has never been fair or balanced. It's a trick.

It's a trick of the liberal media to trick the gullible into believing they are not fair and balanced.

How do you know bias isn't the truth?

Truth is not biased.

Depends on the statement and if it's factually correct. After watching all news outlets on all sides, RW media bias is more often lying than other outlets. By a large factor too.
Fox is entertainment and opinion. And MSNBC has higher ratings.

See the LW media has tricked you. Why do you think Fox is the most watched news outlet? People are a lot smarter then you lefties give us credit for.

Except these networks have credible history and journalists. They set the standard for journalism, Fox hasn't won a single award for journalism in their history.
Fake news only works when you tell everyone that the credible journalists are the real 'fake' news.

They have a history of LW bias. Even Walter Cronkite had a LW bias. It was just not as prominent as it is today.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
When I have time I will look into it and get back to you. The fact it was blocked shows he was trying to do something. What did Obama eve do to help young people get a job.

Young people don't need any help getting their first job. Fast food restraunts alwasys have a "help wanted" sign in their windows.

Actually they do. The number of older people in the marketplace means that in many parts of the country the jobs that used to be filled by young people are going to those who used to work in manufacturing and other fields.

The fact that it was blocked shows that he is a democrat and republicans blocked it, nothing more. People seem to have missed the fact that republicans openly said they were blocking everything Obama wanted to do, regardless of its merit. It was their strategy for the last 7 years of his presidency.

This is why he resorted to executive orders, and even then they complained about those.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Actually they do. The number of older people in the marketplace means that in many parts of the country the jobs that used to be filled by young people are going to those who used to work in manufacturing and other fields.

I don't think I have passed a fast food place in the past 5 years that did not have "help wanted" sing on both sides of the store where I live Kroger always has a "Now hiring sign as you come in the door. The work is thee if anyone want it.

The fact that it was blocked shows that he is a democrat and republicans blocked it, nothing more. People seem to have missed the fact that republicans openly said they were blocking everything Obama wanted to do, regardless of its merit. It was their strategy for the last 7 years of his presidency.

Most did not say that,. In fact very few did. That is ironic, since the Dems oppose everything Trump does and now they are even saying he needs to be impeached. The LW folks are like petulant children. They all need to get a puppy to pet and quit eating sour grapes

This is why he resorted to executive orders, and even then they complained about those.

And now the Dems are doing the same thing. You need to be fair and balanced...:p
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is ironic, since the Dems oppose everything Trump does and now they are even saying he needs to be impeached.
And which party was nicknamed by many as being the "Party of No" for six years? And aren't you aware of the fact that some Republicans are now also saying the i-word?

BTW, how did Trump treat Obama, or do we have to remind you? Also, can you explain how Trump's words and actions supposedly coincide with your religious affiliation? Are they Jesus-like, iyo?
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
And which party was nicknamed by many as being the "Party of No" for six years?

Unfortunately BOTH parties play the same game. The party not in power automatically becomes obstructionists, and the nations suffers. It is even worse, the main agenda of politicians is not what is good for the country, but what is good for me to get reelected so I can live like royalty and not like the peasants I am suppose to represent.

I am not aware of any republicans asking for impeachment. Could you name them? If hey are, they are closet democrats living in a district that never elects a democart.

BTW, how did Trump treat Obama, or do we have to remind you?

You have to remind me and include your source.

Also, can you explain how Trump's words and actions supposedly coincide with your religious affiliation? Are they Jesus-like, iyo?

Some are and some are not. Same with Clnton. Sometimes my actions and words are not as Christian as I would like them to be. That is the great thing about God; He loves me anyway, and He forgives and forgets as soon as I confess them.
 

Underhill

Well-Known Member
Most did not say that,. In fact very few did. That is ironic, since the Dems oppose everything Trump does and now they are even saying he needs to be impeached. The LW folks are like petulant children. They all need to get a puppy to pet and quit eating sour grapes

What are you even talking about? It was party policy.

http://washingtonmonthly.com/2015/02/01/a-walk-down-memory-lane-on-republican-obstruction/

Former Republican Congressional staffer Mike Lofgren explains the strategy.

"A couple of years ago, a Republican committee staff director told me candidly (and proudly) what the method was to all this obstruction and disruption. Should Republicans succeed in obstructing the Senate from doing its job, it would further lower Congress’s generic favorability rating among the American people. By sabotaging the reputation of an institution of government, the party that is programmatically against government would come out the relative winner."

...former speech-writer for President George W. Bush – David Frum – is ejected from the party for writing this:

"At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994…"

This is not in my head.

And now the Dems are doing the same thing. You need to be fair and balanced...:p

In response to their treatment of Obama, of course they are. But as David Frum points out, Democrats weren't like this for George Bush. They compromised with Bush on tax cuts in 2001 (and later with him on the medicare drug plan).

It's called consequences. It's why traditionally politicians didn't go to those extremes. In the long run it tends to haunt them.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I am not aware of any republicans asking for impeachment.
I didn't say they asked for impeachment, just that it's a possibility in regards to the allegations, and one of them saying this was McCain about two days ago, but he was not alone in his assessment.

You have to remind me and include your source.
You don't remember the birth-certificate issue, the claims that he was born in Kenya, etc.?
 
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