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Suppression of Free Speech on Covid

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
The King kneels at the Chair of Estate. The Archbishop says

Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel? Will you to the utmost of your power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law? Will you maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England?

And will you preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them?

The King replies

All this I promise to do.

The King places his hand on the Bible and says

The things which I have here before promised, I will perform and keep. So help me God.


In addition to settling the crown, the act contained some important constitutional provisions: (1) all future monarchs must join in communion with the Church of England;


Following the death of Queen Elizabeth, her son King Charles not only succeeded her as British monarch, but as monarch of 14 other Commonwealth realms, from Australia to Jamaica. Therefore, he became king and head of state for some 150 million people in the Commonwealth realms.


What does any of this have to do with vaccines?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member

Study discovers biggest cause of 'alarming surge' of excess deaths in UK​

Heart failure is the biggest driver of an alarming surge in excess deaths, a study reveals, as MPs demand a "thorough investigation" into the trend.​

Link

When new COVID-19 vaccines were first administered two years ago, public health officials found an increase in cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, particularly among young males who had been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. It was unclear, however, what exactly was causing this reaction.

Link

The data cited in the Yale article was for correlations in the first 21 days. Kirsh's analysis of the NZ data showed that the dose/death correlation continued for about a year with it peaking at six months.
Once again we get a questionable news source with no link to the actual study itself. And, an article that doesn't say anything that actually matches up with the alarming headline we've been given.


It does say this at the end, "Dr Aseem Malhotra, a leading cardiologist said: “The most common cause of excess deaths relate to the heart and circulatory system. These have many causes that may interact. Eighty percent of this is linked to lifestyle and environmental factors, such as worsening diet, sedentary lifestyles and stress which we know happened during lockdowns.

Adverse reactions to the MRNA Covid vaccine could also have played a part, he said.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesman said: “There are a wide variety of factors contributing to excess deaths, including high flu prevalence, the ongoing challenges of COVID-19 and health conditions such as heart disease and diabetes, which did not get picked up during the pandemic. We are taking steps to help reduce excess deaths, including those which involve COVID-19 and vaccines remain the first line of defence.”


Notice how the cardiologist listed the actual causes of these excess deaths, and then sort of throws in at the end that "the MRNA Covid vaccine could also have played a part" and then goes on to say that COVID vaccines "remain the first line of defence [against excess deaths"], which tells us that the study doesn't seem to demonstrate what the headline wants to tell us to believe.



And once again, I have to post this (from a reputable source):


"The overall risk of myocarditis – inflammation of the heart muscle – is substantially higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than it is in the weeks following vaccination for the coronavirus, a large new study in England shows.

The detailed analysis of nearly 43 million people was published Monday in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.

"We found that across this large dataset, the entire COVID-19-vaccinated population of England during an important 12-month period of the pandemic when the COVID-19 vaccines first became available, the risk of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was quite small compared to the risk of myocarditis after COVID-19 infection," the study's lead author, Martina Patone, said in a news release. She is a statistician at the University of Oxford Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences in England. ...

The analysis showed people infected with COVID-19 before receiving a vaccine were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. But that risk was cut in half if a person was infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine."




"Q: Is there a risk of myocarditis or pericarditis with the SARS-CoV2 mRNA vaccines used to prevent COVID-19?

Danielides: Rare cases of myocarditis reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) have occurred after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna), especially in male adolescents and young adults, more often after the second dose, usually within several days after vaccination. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) and its partners are actively monitoring reports of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination. Active monitoring includes reviewing data and medical records and evaluating the relationship to COVID-19 vaccination. In a very large case-control study of vaccination with Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccination in Israel, the vaccination was association with a very small increased risk of myocarditis. Although the risk related to vaccination may up to 3 times higher than the general population, the risks of developing myocarditis or pericarditis due to COVID-19 itself are up to 35 times higher."

 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
What does any of this have to do with vaccines?
The symbolism of the Rod of Asclepius relates to the crucifixion, to Moses healing the people, and to the hardening of the heart of the ruler who opposed him. Also the idea of healing is associated with the crucifixion in one of the canonical books of the Church of England.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
The symbolism of the Rod of Asclepius relates to the crucifixion, to Moses healing the people, and to the hardening of the heart of the ruler who opposed him. Also the idea of healing is associated with the crucifixion in one of the canonical books of the Church of England.

So stuff vaguely related to "healing" is vaguely connected to Christianity. And so...what? What's the therefore?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The symbolism of the Rod of Asclepius relates to the crucifixion, to Moses healing the people, and to the hardening of the heart of the ruler who opposed him. Also the idea of healing is associated with the crucifixion in one of the canonical books of the Church of England.
And .... ?
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
So stuff vaguely related to "healing" is vaguely connected to Christianity.
The symbolism is pretty clear. It's front and center in the W.H.O. logo. The crucifixion is the central event of Pauline Christianity.

And so...what? What's the therefore?
Therefore the state will act according to the faith that relates to medicine. When there's a problem with that faith you get a corresponding problem with belief about medicine. This is especially true for pharmaceuticals, which are associated with deception in the canonical text.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The symbolism is pretty clear. It's front and center in the W.H.O. logo. The crucifixion is the central event of Pauline Christianity.


Therefore the state will act according to the faith that relates to medicine. When there's a problem with that faith you get a corresponding problem with belief about medicine. This is especially true for pharmaceuticals, which are associated with deception in the canonical text.
Sounds like more weird conspiracy stuff.
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
A majority of Americans believe COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and nearly one-in-four say someone they know could be among the victims.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 53% of American Adults believe it is likely that side effects of COVID-19 vaccines have caused a significant number of unexplained deaths – up from 49% a year ago – including 30% who think it’s Very Likely.

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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
A majority of Americans believe COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and nearly one-in-four say someone they know could be among the victims.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 53% of American Adults believe it is likely that side effects of COVID-19 vaccines have caused a significant number of unexplained deaths – up from 49% a year ago – including 30% who think it’s Very Likely.

Link
So what? If that's the case, then Americans are woefully uninformed.

I bet if you asked an American to name five people they know who died from the COVID vaccine they couldn't name a single person. I bet you if you asked an American how many people they know that died from COVID, they could probably name a couple. I know I can. And yet the same people would probably still claim that the vaccine is super deadly.

Let's face facts here, if the COVID vaccine was this dangerous, we should see people dropping dead all over the place, given that something like 13 BILLION doses have been administered globally, at this point. But people like to believe conspiracy theories instead of facing facts, apparently.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
The symbolism is pretty clear. It's front and center in the W.H.O. logo.

Everyone understands that the serpent and rod symbol is generally associated with medicine. So what?

The crucifixion is the central event of Pauline Christianity.

Again, so what?

Therefore the state will act according to the faith that relates to medicine. When there's a problem with that faith you get a corresponding problem with belief about medicine.

This is vague. Just say what you're thinking. What problem? What belief about medicine?

This is especially true for pharmaceuticals, which are associated with deception in the canonical text.

Huh?

You have to know how weird and silly this sounds.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist

Study discovers biggest cause of 'alarming surge' of excess deaths in UK​

Heart failure is the biggest driver of an alarming surge in excess deaths, a study reveals, as MPs demand a "thorough investigation" into the trend.​

Link

When new COVID-19 vaccines were first administered two years ago, public health officials found an increase in cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, particularly among young males who had been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines. It was unclear, however, what exactly was causing this reaction.

Link

The data cited in the Yale article was for correlations in the first 21 days. Kirsh's analysis of the NZ data showed that the dose/death correlation continued for about a year with it peaking at six months.

Note the words "mild inflammation".
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
Everyone understands that the serpent and rod symbol is generally associated with medicine. So what?
The serpent and the rod goes back to Moses and a proof of power. The serpent and pole connects to Moses healing the people and to the crucifixion.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
The serpent and the rod goes back to Moses and a proof of power. The serpent and pole connects to Moses healing the people and to the crucifixion.

Neat. For the third or fourth time, how in the world did you get from there to, "The New Zealand Ministry of Health is lying about people dying from vaccines"?
 
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