I don't know.
But I sure jumped the gun with me title!
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Supreme Court Justice Scalia Died Of Natural Causes
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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But I sure jumped the gun with me title!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I disagree because it's taking elections away from people and making them about money. Kinda like American healthcare. It's great if you have the money to afford it, but for everybody else our care is far behind that of other similar nations. Campaign spending is starting to look more like the American income gap, with a few controlling over half.
Curious George
Veteran Member
But you agree that it is political speech?
esmith
Veteran Member
Seems that you Democrats do not have much to stand on when it comes to denying "lame duck" presidents from pressing forward on nominating a Supreme Court Justice.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...ny-bush-supreme-court-nominee/article/2583283
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...ny-bush-supreme-court-nominee/article/2583283
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And Schumer is wrong for doing so, as it is the duty of the president to work with congress to appoint a Supreme Court successor. There is absolutely nothing in regards to election years, lame duck presidents, or any other such nonsense. This is a bitter defeat for the right, because this will tilt the balance to the left, and there is nothing they can do about except whine. Overturning gay marriage will probably never happen now. Abortion rights are not likely to be reduced. Planned Parenthood can't be utterly dismantled. Everything the right has stood for since Reagen won't be viewed favorably by this left-leaning Supreme Court, the right knows this, and it's scaring them. They can pretty much forget about the ACA because Scalia was pretty much the judge that let it slide, so other than trivial wasteful bickering it's pretty much a done deal. With this nominee, we may be looking at the last generation of homosexuals who knew legally tolerated religious-based discrimination.
Kinda on par with '07, except for the fact the left has won some tremendous victories lately, and this Supreme Court nominee by Obama will help to secure them, as well as future victories.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Actually, in a rather perverse sense I hope the Pubs do play hardball on this because it'll no doubt become a major factor this November. The Dems will pounce on the "Do Nothing Congress", which already makes the Republican-controlled Congress less popular than having a root canal, and just keep driving that point home, over and over again.
So, are the Pubs dumb enough to do this in this election year? Whaddya think?
So, are the Pubs dumb enough to do this in this election year? Whaddya think?
esmith
Veteran Member
Then again
This years national election is not the elections of the past. It seems that the voting public is completely fed-up with the current establishments, as seen by the Sanders and Trump/Cruz supporters. I don't see this political dust-up hurting the Republicans. but possibly helping them. Republican voters were turned off in the 2012 election by the perceived weakness of Romney.
I think the situation will be clearer after each parties selection of who is running.
Then again maybe it will galvanize those with conservative leanings and bring those conservatives that did not vote in the 2012 elections.to the polls. Then if the DNC strong arms Hillary into being the Democrats standard bearer will this turn off those that support Sanders and they set on the sidelines?
This years national election is not the elections of the past. It seems that the voting public is completely fed-up with the current establishments, as seen by the Sanders and Trump/Cruz supporters. I don't see this political dust-up hurting the Republicans. but possibly helping them. Republican voters were turned off in the 2012 election by the perceived weakness of Romney.
I think the situation will be clearer after each parties selection of who is running.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
But "galvanizing the conservatives" by itself won't be enough unless the Dems don't come out to vote.
David Gergen, a Republican who has served three presidents if my memory is correct, said much the same on CNN, even going so far as saying that Scalia's death actually could work in the Dem's favor. The Pubs cannot win nationally if they continue to alienate blacks, Hispanics, and women, whereas angry white men simply do not form a majority of the American electorate.
And here's where the Pubs maybe have painted themselves into a corner with their rhetoric, because if they now back off what they have committed themselves to, they're gonna come off as total wimps and liars, thus alienating their own constituency. I think they've just screwed themselves, so I hope they enjoy it while it lasts.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The problem is we are really only seeing the enthusiastic voting public. When it comes to the general public, people are increasingly becoming more-and-more disenfranchised, not caring, and not voting (consider the pathetically low turnout rate during the last election). But, with presidential elections, the Left is known for showing up in larger numbers to vote than during a non-presidential election.
I really believe that they have.
What Trump is doing is whipping the Tea Partiers into action. They tend to come out for the primaries more than the rank and file. But in November, there won't be enough of them to out vote the Clintonistas plus the moderate independent vote.
It is all so convenient for Hillary I have trouble believing she and Trump are not in league with each other.
Tom
No. We will not. We will clench our teeth and work diligently to defend our nation against the malignant cancer parading as a legitimate political party.
Interesting pair those two. Couldn't be further apart in their views and opinions yet were still best of friends.
Personally I would like to see someone along the lines of Scalia being his replacement. I believe there should remain balance in the Supreme court. I don't think a court slanted heavily in either direction is beneficial to the country as a whole. But both sides will undoubtedly try to get a nominee that will push their parties agenda.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
It wasn't balanced with Scalia. Conservatives had a 5-4 the majority.
I don't think the court should be slanted at all. If we can accurately judge a judge's political affiliation by their votes, then those judges aren't fit to be judges in my opinion. But we have to play the hand we're dealt.
That's quite reasonable.
I'm more of an extremist though....I think all justices should agree with me.
No, with ME!
You'd be crazy not to hold that view!No, with ME!
I agree with you for the most part. But for instance, Roberts, although conservative has sided with Obama at times and Kennedy can go either way. But I agree with you 100% in that they should not be slanted either way. A good judge should be able to accurately and fairly do their job despite their personal political views. But unfortunately as you say we have to play the hand we're dealt.