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Supreme Court to Decide Whether to Kick Trump Off Ballot

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, President Biden is a creepy old man, but what does this have to do with the sexual perversion of Donald Trump? He cheated on his first wife with a mistress who later became his second wife, with whom he cheated on with another mistress who is now his third wife, and with whom he cheated on by having an affair with a porn star and a playboy bunny (both of whom he later paid off). Furthermore, he once told Howard Stern that it was okay to call Ivanka, his daughter, a piece of a** (source) and stated in an interview that if she wasn't his daughter, perhaps he'd be dating her (in his own words). That's not to mention his proud boasting about how he'd go backstage at beauty pageants to "inspect" semi-naked teenage girls (source) and his lewd remarks about how he would forcefully kiss women and grope them between their legs (see spoiler alert). It is perfectly clear to me that he is a sexual predator, a womanizer, and an adulterer, whereas President Biden is merely a dirty old man who can't keep his hands to himself at times. And that's creepy behavior.

And when it comes to Trump don't forget convicted rapist.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not yet, but the prospect is rapidly growing with the onslaught of the five indictments in four criminal cases, which have resulted in a whopping total of 91 felony charges against him. These felony charges consist of 44 federal charges and 47 state charges. Trump, who claimed that the Continental Army took over the airports during the American Revolutionary War, is obviously not the very stable genius that he once claimed to be, but I'm sure he is smart enough to know that his days are numbered. I wouldn't be surprised if he is starting to worry about his mounting legal woes. And incidentally, just because he hasn't been convicted of any crimes yet doesn't mean that he isn't a threat to democracy and national security, as I mentioned in my prior post here.
Democrats are obviously desperate and 91 charges?

How in the the hell did they ever arrive at that number?
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
And when it comes to Trump don't forget convicted rapist.

I'm not completely certain whether this is true or not, so I decided not to mention it in my post.

The news articles I've read, such as the two linked below, appear to disagree on whether Trump is guilty of raping E. Jean Carroll.

Fact Check: Was Donald Trump Found Guilty of Rape?

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

The following paragraph is an excerpt from this article: A Stunning Result in Trump’s Sexual Assault Trial:

On Tuesday afternoon, a jury in federal court in Manhattan rendered its verdict in a case brought late last year by the writer E. Jean Carroll, who alleged that Trump assaulted her in a dressing room in Bergdorf Goodman in the spring of 1996. The jury concluded within hours that Trump was liable on two civil claims brought by Carroll under New York law — one for battery, and another for defamation based on Trump’s denial of Carroll’s allegations in a post on Truth Social in October 2022. The jury awarded Carroll $5 million. (A separate defamation lawsuit brought in 2019 based on Trump’s denials of Carroll’s claims while in office technically remains pending, thanks to the Justice Department’s ill-advised decision to intervene on Trump’s behalf.)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You can look them up yourself. Do you think that you could make a serious argument against any of them?
I already did.

PBS broke those individuals charges down.


I'd be more interested in how the prosecution is going to make their own serious argument.

At least this trial will be televised answering both our questions.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
So much schadenfreude ever since you first ellected Trump.

Hopefully you will manage to curb him for good soon.

It is shameful that he has been so influential for so long.
We have become the land of greed and stupidity. Trump is just a symptom of it. Getting rid of him won't solve anything. It'll just fester until the next criminal comes along looking to take advantage of a nation is total moral and intellectual decline. And the next one will come. No doubt. They're already lining up for the job.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You are mistaken if you think that it is only Democrats who believe Trump is culpable and want to see him brought to justice. It may be a small margin when compared to Democrats and Independents, but there are Republicans who believe Trump is culpable and want him to face justice. I suggest reading the following article if you'd like to know the percentage of Republicans who agree with the Democrats and Independents about Trump. And I see from your post to Subduction Zone that you now know why there are 91 felony charges. I'll go ahead and mention this link, 91 felony charges, in my prior post.

Lock Him Up? A New Poll Has Some Bad News for Trump
Thats all I wanted to know is where the basis lays for each individual charge that was made.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Democrats are obviously desperate and 91 charges?

How in the the hell did they ever arrive at that number?

You are mistaken if you think that it is only Democrats who believe Trump is culpable and want to see him brought to justice. It may be a small margin when compared to Democrats and Independents, but there are Republicans who believe Trump is culpable and want him to face justice. I suggest reading the following article if you'd like to know the percentage of Republicans who agree with the Democrats and Independents about Trump. And I see from your post to Subduction Zone that you now know why there are 91 felony charges. I'll go ahead and mention this link, 91 felony charges, in my prior post.

Lock Him Up? A New Poll Has Some Bad News for Trump
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Thats all I wanted to know is where the basis lays for each individual charge that was made.

With 91 felony charges pending against him, I doubt he will emerge from his legal troubles unscathed. He may put on a brave face and grumpily moan about what's happening to him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is truly scared. I could be mistaken, and his mounting legal woes aren't troubling him.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
We have become the land of greed and stupidity. Trump is just a symptom of it. Getting rid of him won't solve anything. It'll just fester until the next criminal comes along looking to take advantage of a nation is total moral and intellectual decline. And the next one will come. No doubt. They're already lining up for the job.
I don't disagree... but failing to reject him will have very bad consequences as well.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I don't disagree... but failing to reject him will have very bad consequences as well.
True, that.

It's a shame we're all so lazy, stupid, and selfish in this country that we can't just band together and throw the whole pack of scumbags out on their ear. And then watch them try to get and work a real job. But for some reason we just love to imagine that "our scumbags" are better that "their scumbags" so we can't get together and rid ourselves of them.

Also, I suppose, no one wants to take their place, but other scumbags. Who even has any sense of civic responsibility, anymore?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Another thing about Trump running is this. Last 4 years he was not President, Biden was and is. So he is running as an ex-President from 4 to 8 years ago, we have never had that. I think that should also disqualify him. He had his chance to run and lost. It should be over now. I still can't believe what was coming out of his mouth about Biden stilling his win and Dems cheating the vote process.

I will never forget that in the election at one point Trump was ahead in in some of the states and I thought for a moment that Trump was going to win. I think at that point that he did too but then the later votes started coming in for the other states. I think I remember Trump telling the election people to stop the counting, stop it now it was almost comical. It was really the craziest election I've ever seen and he got up and announced that he had won. It was nutty
That shouldn't disqualify him. There is a precedent for someone serving one term as President, losing re-election, and then winning the next time. Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms as President. Grover Cleveland | The White House
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
All those that want to throw it away by keeping someone off the ballot the Constitution says can be on it are among them.
You mean the Constitution that says someone cannot run for President if they've participated in an insurrection or given comfort to insurrectionists? That Constitution?
 
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