Supremely Good?

[WilliamGoode]

I'm sure that there's a flaw in the way that I'm thinking and I'm hoping that someone can point it out to me. Lately I've had this line of thinking:

Man is created in God's image.
Man is flawed.

Therefore, doesn't it stand to reason that God is supremely flawed?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'm sure that there's a flaw in the way that I'm thinking and I'm hoping that someone can point it out to me. Lately I've had this line of thinking:

Man is created in God's image.
Man is flawed.

Therefore, doesn't it stand to reason that God is supremely flawed?

No.

 

[WilliamGoode]

No.

Ummmm... could you explain why?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Ummmm... could you explain why?

I could, but first note ...

I have zero reason to think that it will be worth my while. Genesis 1 is a text that has been subjected to a massive amount of scholarly commentary, none of which you seem to have considered worth reading. It's hard for me to see why anything you might say on the matter should be deemed worthy of consideration and respect.​

That said, see ... here.

 

[WilliamGoode]

I could, but first note ...

I have zero reason to think that it will be worth my while. Genesis 1 is a text that has been subjected to a massive amount of scholarly commentary, none of which you seem to have considered worth reading. It's hard for me to see why anything you might say on the matter should be deemed worthy of consideration and respect.​

That said, see ... here.

Well, thank you for assuming a number of things about me. I suppose you're right, though. How ashamed I should be to ask a question.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Well, thank you for assuming a number of things about me. I suppose you're right, though. How ashamed I should be to ask a question.

When I asked my father a question, he would smile at me and ask: "Did you look it up?" I was probably eight or nine.

As for your original question: No, it doesn't "stand to reason", and you have zero reason to presume otherwise - primarily because you've apparently made no effort to become informed on the matter. Next time try to ask informed questions unless, of course, you are younger than eight or nine, in which case you should probably ask your parents.

 

[George-ananda]

I'm sure that there's a flaw in the way that I'm thinking and I'm hoping that someone can point it out to me.

I think your flaw is taking ancient text too literally.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

When I asked my father a question, he would smile at me and ask: "Did you look it up?" I was probably eight or nine.

As for your original question: No, it doesn't "stand to reason", and you have zero reason to presume otherwise - primarily because you've apparently made no effort to become informed on the matter.

What planet are you from where asking questions of people who know more than you about a subject doesn't constitute trying to become informed?

Responses like 'look it up' or 'Google it' are just lazy cop-outs by people who can't be bothered. And you complain that people make no effort to become informed on things when this is the response they get from people who do know more.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What planet are you from where asking questions of people who know more than you about a subject doesn't constitute trying to become informed?

Responses like 'look it up' or 'Google it' are just lazy cop-outs by people who can't be bothered. And you complain that people make no effort to become informed on things when this is the response they get from people who do know more.

That's Jay. He's usually rude, insulting and unhelpful. That's just how he rolls. Best to ignore him.

 

[WilliamGoode]

When I asked my father a question, he would smile at me and ask: "Did you look it up?" I was probably eight or nine.

As for your original question: No, it doesn't "stand to reason", and you have zero reason to presume otherwise - primarily because you've apparently made no effort to become informed on the matter. Next time try to ask informed questions unless, of course, you are younger than eight or nine, in which case you should probably ask your parents.

You know, I understand what you are saying. It's really pointless to argue your position. The problem with your position is that there is no clear answer. The scholarly debate is of minimal value because they are trying to put into context a language that is not well understood along with customs that have long been lost. Not to say that there isn't value to reading it, just that it doesn't provide an answer.

 

[arthra]

I'm sure that there's a flaw in the way that I'm thinking and I'm hoping that someone can point it out to me. Lately I've had this line of thinking: Man is created in God's image. Man is flawed. Therefore, doesn't it stand to reason that God is supremely flawed?

The only "flaw" that is in man is that sometimes he chooses to disobey his Creator... He was created "free" to choose... otherwise he could not love. Without freedom there cannot be love only automatons. Because God love our creation He created us and we are free to return that love or deny it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You know, I understand what you are saying.

Actually, you do not.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Responses like 'look it up' or 'Google it' are just lazy cop-outs by people who can't be bothered.

In fact, my father taught me a lesson of inestimable value.

 

[psychoslice]

The image of God means we are One in God, that is our true nature, but we have forgotten out true nature, we have separated ourselves from God, and because of this we come up with such questions, these question are from ignorance.

 

[DawudTalut]

I'm sure that there's a flaw in the way that I'm thinking and I'm hoping that someone can point it out to me. Lately I've had this line of thinking:

Man is created in God's image.
Man is flawed.

Therefore, doesn't it stand to reason that God is supremely flawed?

Peace be on you.
God made human at His image means:
God gave human raw faculties, human has to work at them with Divine teaching and have to raise to level of wise human then to morality then to Godly person.

Please read Holy Quran:
chapter 2 : v139 note 145

https://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=194&region=E1&CR=EN,E2&CR=EN,E2


[ch84:v7] Thou, O man, art verily labouring towards thy Lord, a hard labouring; then thou art going to meet Him.

[ch18:v111] Say, ‘I am only a man like yourselves; but I have received the revelation that your God is only One God. So let him who hopes to meet his Lord do good deeds, and let him join no one in the worship of his Lord.’

Man is flawed.

Every one is not flawed:
[95:5] Surely, We have created man in the best make;
[95:6] Then, if he works iniquity, We reject him as the lowest of the low,
[95:7] Except those who believe and do good works; so for them is an unending reward.


Despite world's bad state in various fields, still goodness is present, reforms are being carried out. There are good people in various religions who thinks and strive for positive.....Ahmadiyya-Muslim Khalifah and Community struggle for that world peace, for example.

 

[George-ananda]

In fact, my father taught me a lesson of inestimable value.

<yawn> ignore </yawn>

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The scholarly debate is of minimal value because ...