Suspect charged with hate crime for destroying Satanic Temple display at Iowa Capitol

[Shadow Wolf]

It's a shame Michael Cassidy , a Republican candidate and former military pilot running for Mississippi's House of Representatives is the culprit and the one responsible for this clearly infantile destruction of property.

He’s accused of taking out a Satanic Temple statue at a state capitol. Now he’s being charged with criminal mischief

Michael Cassidy, who is accused of damaging the statue, is running for the Mississippi House of Representatives

www.deseret.com

I'm not surprised. The Satanic Temple didn't exist when I was a Christian, but knowing Evangelicals as si do I have no doubts they view TST's presence and legal acceptance as a personal insult and affront against them, a sure sign their god is being shoved out of society, Satan is running the show, they are persecuted and it's going to get worse.
So here we have this jolly good worldly wanker who has put on the armor of god and picked up the sword and they are so thrilled amd delighted to have someone finally standing up fir them in this goddless world they're overlooking how property damage is a ***** crime, not a dick crime.

 

[danieldemol]

I say F the 'law of the land I live in' when it is wrong. Would you have defended, say, slavery when it was the 'law of the land?'

We disagree on the issue of vandalism.

It takes courage to F the law of the land when it is wrong. It takes even greater courage to F such laws as are allegedly revealed by God when they are also wrong in my view.

 

[danieldemol]

I'm arguing against the liberal use of the term 'hate crime' that in my view sullies the term.
It's not like I'm protecting the sanctity of Religion here

Why do you think protecting the sanctity of religion is related to hate crimes?

I wouldn't charge someone for painting a nazi symbol on a synagogue for the sake of protecting the sanctity of religion, because those places are holy to Jews, not to me. Rather I would charge them because it is a crime motivated by hate which is against the law and rightfully so since it would undermine the tolerance necessary for harmonious coexistence.

I'm afraid I just don't see the relevance of protecting the sanctity of religion here.

 

[libre]

Why do you think protecting the sanctity of religion is related to hate crimes?

I don't.
That's why I said I wasn't.

 

[Viker]

Honestly, I think that not all religions are the same.
Or rather, not all ideologies or thoughts deserve the denomination religion.
And this is the case.

I am sorry, I need to be outspoken: of course I condemn that person's act, but we are not dealing with a religion, here.

Then, exactly what is a religion?

 

[Viker]

A religion to be defined as such, needs to pursue positive purposes, such as the self-development and the self-improvement; and the improvement of society.

Oh. And The Satanic Temple does none of that? You're immensely misinformed. Even after it's already been demonstrated you're misinformed in other threads concerning this very thing, you continue to double down on being misinformed. It's a pity.

 

[Viker]

Oh goodie, a quote from scripture!

"12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

Praise God. So, you think that means I should not smash tributes to Satan?

I am not a betting person, but if I was would bet you $100 Matthew would be on my side.

Honestly, Biblical quotes don't really matter in this case. Constitutional law absolutely matters in this case. And then local laws against vandalism and discriminatory destruction or violence towards a particular group.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

The point is you either allow anyone to have their display up, or if people can't act civil about it, they don't get to have any up either. The willful destruction only proved the second point. Frankly, I'd rather not see large religious displays in any building of that sort. Small personal ones are fine, like a piece of jewelry, or a small statuette on your desk. You could bet your bottom if willful destruction of the Christian display had happened, they'd be foaming at the mouth.

 

[Viker]

Honestly, I think that not all religions are the same.
Or rather, not all ideologies or thoughts deserve the denomination religion.
And this is the case.

I am sorry, I need to be outspoken: of course I condemn that person's act, but we are not dealing with a religion, here.

BTW. The Satanic Temple is a religious institution. They even have a federally supported tax exempt status for being such.

Satanic Temple: IRS has designated it a tax-exempt church

 

[crossfire]

The point is you either allow anyone to have their display up, or if people can't act civil about it, they don't get to have any up either. The willful destruction only proved the second point. Frankly, I'd rather not see large religious displays in any building of that sort. Small personal ones are fine, like a piece of jewelry, or a small statuette on your desk. You could bet your bottom if willful destruction of the Christian display had happened, they'd be foaming at the mouth.

I dunno know about that. I remember years ago when atheists went on a rampage and started destroying Nativity scenes on private property.

 

[Viker]

I'm not surprised. The Satanic Temple didn't exist when I was a Christian, but knowing Evangelicals as si do I have no doubts they view TST's presence and legal acceptance as a personal insult and affront against them, a sure sign their god is being shoved out of society, Satan is running the show, they are persecuted and it's going to get worse.
So here we have this jolly good worldly wanker who has put on the armor of god and picked up the sword and they are so thrilled amd delighted to have someone finally standing up fir them in this goddless world they're overlooking how property damage is a ***** crime, not a dick crime.

I know. A criminal is going to just be a criminal. Any excuse or silly justification will serve a criminal. And people who support crime will always support their favorite criminals.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

I dunno know about that. I remember years ago when atheists went on a rampage and started destroying Nativity scenes on private property.

Soo your saying that the Christians weren't super ticked, that their private property was destroyed? That doesn't quite sound right. And shame on them too.

Sorry, I'm just a bit confused by your statement.

 

[Viker]

Another BTW.

This juvenile hoodlum should be made an example of and charged with a hate crime. Adults who know and follow the law of the land need to spank this big kid. Teach him a real civics lesson.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Another BTW.

This juvenile hoodlum should be made an example of and charged with a hate crime. Adults who know and follow the law of the land need to spank this big kid. Teach him a real civics lesson.

No, it's big kids who are good who get a spanking. Bad. good. Whatever, the point is, when your an adult the spanking thing gets reversed.
30 days of not stop wet loogies, purple nurples and melvins will learn him good.

 

[Father Heathen]

No, it's big kids who are good who get a spanking. Bad. good. Whatever, the point is, when your an adult the spanking thing gets reversed.
30 days of not stop wet loogies, purple nurples and melvins will learn him good.

They should have him dress up as the Baphomet and stand there in it's place as punishment.

 

[Estro Felino]

Oh. And The Satanic Temple does none of that? You're immensely misinformed. Even after it's already been demonstrated you're misinformed in other threads concerning this very thing, you continue to double down on being misinformed. It's a pity.

Do Satanists respect Christians?

I mean...Satan hated Jesus Christ...so why should it be different, between Satanists and Christians?

 

[Esteban X]

Do Satanists respect Christians?

Respect goes two ways

 

[Viker]

Do Satanists respect Christians?

I mean...Satan hated Jesus Christ...so why should it be different, between Satanists and Christians?

As far as regarding the rights, lives and any positive achievements of Christians, it's an obvious yes.

Most Satanists reject that Satan hates anyone or anything. Satan seems indifferent. Most only believe in Satan as a metaphor or symbol.

In accordance with the OP. American Christians should respect the law of the land, as they are instructed to in their own Bible.

If a Christian should be permitted to damage a Baphomet display on public property, shouldn't a Satanist be permitted to damage a Ten Commandments display as well? I'll answer that. No. The law is the law. Anyone who breaks the law is a law breaker. If Christians would stop displaying items from their religion on public property Satanists would stop it as well. I only see Satanists being the concerned law abiding ones in this instance.

 

[Estro Felino]

As far as regarding the rights, lives and any positive achievements of Christians, it's an obvious yes.

I see.

Most Satanists reject that Satan hates anyone or anything.

That "most" is incredibly disturbing. And not reassuring at all.

Satan seems indifferent. Most only believe in Satan as a metaphor or symbol.

Again. Most and not all sounds concerning to me.

In accordance with the OP. American Christians should respect the law of the land, as they are instructed to in their own Bible.

If a Christian should be permitted to damage a Baphomet display on public property,

I have already condemned that person's action. It's a crime to damage other people's property.

If Christians would stop displaying items from their religion on public property Satanists would stop it as well.

The USA is a historically and culturally Christian country. Even to many atheists.
So they should assume that. And accept that.

 

[Viker]

The USA is a historically and culturally Christian country. Even to many atheists.
So they should assume that. And accept that

It's also been a Jewish country, an Islamic country, a deist country and now a Satanist country, too.

It also has secularist law prohibiting both an establishment of a state religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof and prohibiting discrimination for religious belief. This law is nearly 250 years old. Putting the Ten Commandments on official public property is only around 70 years old. Why can't others display their religious iconography?

This is not a Christian country anymore than it is not a white Country. We don't even have an official language. The blasted Constitution always seems to get in the way of things as silly as white nationalism and Christian nationalism.