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Tara Reade who accuses Biden of sexual assault now fears for her life.

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
This is indeed unfair.
But it has the advantage that it's easier for
the accuser to admit the false claim.
It points out the problem that it's too easy to
convict men of rape based upon the mere claim.
And prosecutors will pursue weak cases, even
committing fraud to convict innocent men, eg,
Mike Nifong vs the Duke Lacrosse players.

It's the epitome of injustice.
Men are punished, women are not.
The law is not equal for all.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
You know...once a feminist on YT said that women have the right to consider a sexual act rape, even after the intercourse.
Meaning: even if they gave their consent at the beginning of the act, during and at the end, they could reconsider and change their mind, afterwards...on the following day.

This is utterly disgusting and horrific.

I was specifically referring to sexual assault that doesn't involve consent. Even clear cut cases won't get reported and even sometimes when a person tries to, they can be dissuaded.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I was specifically referring to sexual assault that doesn't involve consent. Even clear cut cases won't get reported and even sometimes when a person tries to, they can be dissuaded.

It happened to me that my first time with a man was a bit unsettling and...painful.
But he was my boyfriend and I was deeply in love with him.
And I didn't express my consent explicitly because I didn't know what to do...because it was my first time.

The fact that another woman could have sued that man...in the US, shows that the American judicial system is flawed.
I am sorry.
Because it basically tells women: if you enjoyed the sexual act, it's not rape.
If you didn't enjoy it, it's rape.

That is, you can withdraw your consent, after the sexual act.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
People make false accusations that are accepted by people who really, really, really want it to be true!

Ok, didn't get the reference...

While this may occur, I am not a fan of it being assumed, especially when the accusation involves a person in power. It leads to a horrible situation where victims are dismissed and thus why they don't report.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Ok, didn't get the reference...

While this may occur, I am not a fan of it being assumed, especially when the accusation involves a person in power. It leads to a horrible situation where victims are dismissed and thus why they don't report.

I think of this:
if someone mugs me or robs me, I go to the police immediately to denounce the facts.
I don't wait for 20 years or so...and then I go to the police. Also because the procurator or the police may not believe it did happen.
After 20 years ...all the evidence is gone.

Then why should it be different, as for rape?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I think of this:
if someone mugs me or robs me, I go to the police immediately to denounce the facts.
I don't wait for 20 years or so...and then I go to the police. Also because the procurator or the police may not believe it did happen.
After 20 years ...all the evidence is gone.

Then why should it be different, as for rape?


 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
By this line of questioning a hypothetical, are you
arguing that if not immediately reported, there
was no sexual assault, & the accuser is lying?

In judicial language, there are degrees of credibility and reliability.
Twenty years is too much time.
Hardly credible.

There have been cases of rape where the victim went to the police two minutes later.
Sometimes two days later.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have a law degree at least.
I wonder how many of those jurors do, as well.
The judge gave legal instructions.
The lawyers made their arguments based upon evidence presented.
The jurors heard the evidence, & unanimously ruled against Trump.
You have a only a law degree from some foreign country.
The jurors are far more qualified.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The judge gave legal instructions.
The lawyers made their arguments based upon evidence presented.
The jurors heard the evidence, & unanimously ruled against Trump.
You have a only a law degree from some foreign country.
The jurors are far more qualified.
A foreign country where delicate juridical decisions are not entrusted to lay people who hardly know the difference between dolus and culpa.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
People make false accusations that are accepted by people who really, really, really want it to be true!
"If a lie is only printed often enough, it becomes a quasi-truth, and if such a truth is repeated often enough, it becomes an article of belief, a dogma, and men will die for it".

One of the few things attributed to Lenin that is quite accurate.
 
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