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Teach me the science of creatonism without mentioning evolution.

Sculelos

Sculelos

Active Member
I.S.L.A.M617 said:
Sounds like evolution to me...
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Evolution is the change in the inherited characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.
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It can't be Evolution because Adam shifted into all the different forms the Lord God created and named them (called them what to be) Without Dying and without any Generations taking place and he did this all in a space of literally 6 24 hour day's.
 
dyanaprajna2011

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Sculelos said:
It can't be Evolution because Adam shifted into all the different forms the Lord God created and named them (called them what to be) Without Dying and without any Generations taking place and he did this all in a space of literally 6 24 hour day's.
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And your scientific basis for this belief is...
 
I.S.L.A.M617

I.S.L.A.M617

Illuminatus
Sculelos said:
It can't be Evolution because Adam shifted into all the different forms the Lord God created and named them (called them what to be) Without Dying and without any Generations taking place and he did this all in a space of literally 6 24 hour day's.
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And the scientific evidence to support this theory is.... ???
 
dyanaprajna2011

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Sculelos said:
My scientific evidence is that there is NO smooth progression in the fossil record of anything anywhere, especially in the geological column.
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Actually, that doesn't give any evidence of your claim at all. It might go to disprove one theory, but has no veracity to prove another. Try again.
 
Sculelos

Sculelos

Active Member
dyanaprajna2011 said:
I'm pretty sure you can probably find them online somewhere.
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There have been many scientist that have spent their whole lives looking for smooth progressive links and all they have been able to come up with is a very disjointed chart with no smooth progression.

Actually if you remove the Geological column nonsense they don't even really have an argument based on supplied evidence.
 
dyanaprajna2011

dyanaprajna2011

Dharmapala
Sculelos said:
There have been many scientist that have spent their whole lives looking for smooth progressive links and all they have been able to come up with is a very disjointed chart with no smooth progression.

Actually if you remove the Geological column nonsense they don't even really have an argument based on supplied evidence.
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So what is your suggestion of why there are so many different fossils, that correspond closely to other known species? Are you suggesting that so many species became extinct, much more than exists today?
 
Sculelos

Sculelos

Active Member
dyanaprajna2011 said:
So what is your suggestion of why there are so many different fossils, that correspond closely to other known species? Are you suggesting that so many species became extinct, much more than exists today?
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Indeed. If Evolution was to be believed no one in their right mind would think that a Chiwawa and a Great Dane could interbreed but it is possible.

https://www.google.com/search?q=CHi...w&biw=1366&bih=630&sei=9pr2UdjAJ8mLiwLIgoHQAQ

https://www.google.com/search?q=CHi...5mduIg.O&fp=3bfc761feda62154&biw=1366&bih=667
 
I.S.L.A.M617

I.S.L.A.M617

Illuminatus
First of all, it's spelled C-H-I-H-U-A-H-U-A. And secondly, why wouldn't evolution allow two animals of the exact same species to breed? That's like saying a 7 foot Chinese person and a 4 foot white person can't breed.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Sculelos said:
Yes, yes I actually never mentioned the parts in order, This is the condensed version.

1. Time and Space are created.
2. The Heavens and Earth are created.
3. Mankind is created as an energy form.
4. Mankind shifts into all energy forms and taste them all.
5. Satan tricks mankind into trapping the energy forms into Solid Earth.
6. Mankind is Judged to toil and labor and be trapped and bound with Flesh and Blood bodies of Bone and Skin and Satan is trapped under the Earth and Above the Earth in two different parts.
7. God Rest 1 day and watches it repeat itself backward this is the timeline we watch and experience as humans.

After this Week of 5916 years is over (we are in year 5801) those of us who chose to embrace and understand both the light and darkness of energy and had the power to overcome it will be made in the "Image of God" were we will live forever and reproduce throughout fraternity in an infinite World space.

This is the essence of creation.
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So how would one approach any of those 7 claims scientifically. I note here 7 hypotheses that appear to be taken as true despite the fact there being no scientific reasoning to form those hypothesis, nor any way to test them for their validity.
 
Enai de a lukal

Enai de a lukal

Well-Known Member
Sculelos said:
My scientific evidence is that there is NO smooth progression in the fossil record of anything anywhere, especially in the geological column.
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This is an argument from ignorance fallacy, for one thing, and for another, there are transitional fossils (as another poster noted)...But perhaps most pertinently, we would be unreasonable to expect the fossil record to display "smooth progression", as you demand, because it is a plain fact that fossilization requires very precise conditions to occur- conditions which do not obtain all over all the time. Thus, we only get fossils when these very specific conditions are met. Thus the "disjointed" fossil record is precisely what we should expect to see, if evolution is true.

Oops.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Sculelos said:
My scientific evidence is that there is NO smooth progression in the fossil record of anything anywhere, especially in the geological column.
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Sounds like an argument against evolution (if it were true, which it isn't), not an argument for creationism.
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
Sculelos said:
You have asked me an easy question.

Creation consist of 7 parts.

1. The Creation of Time and Space (Nitrogen)
2. The space was empty without energy.
3. God put energy into it and there was energy in it. (Mankind was the Energy form)
4. God called the energy day and the opposite night.
5. And God created Earth in between the Oceans and Outer-space.
6. God created Oxygen and Hydrogen to form Water and Oxygen to separate the Waters underneath the Sea floor from the Waters above the Earth (Outer space)
7. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
8. And God created plants on the Earth which is on and under the dry land.
9. And God created lights in the Solid parts of Heaven which is what we call planets or stars.
10. Two great lights were formed, the Sun and the Moon.
11. And God set them both in motion in the Solid parts of Heaven.
12.

13.

Remember God created Man but Mankind was destined 6 parts of 986 years, Remember the Lord first created the Heavens and the Earth and all that is in it and then he Rested or Watched it unfold and Each day to God is like 986 years to us and we are currently in the 5801 Year since Creation.

So indeed God is not finished with his creation since mankind has yet to reach the final part and that is the achievement to be created in the image of God.

This Part is not finished yet but will be finished in less then 115 years from now.
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You forgot the most important part.

Where is the scientific evidence to back that stuff up and how was it falsifiability used? :)
 
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