Yep.
[I've never had a threesome, either. But I guess that's my own damn fault.]
Note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vlDhcZXCHw
Well, that explains a bit about the clergy.
Tom
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Teacher threesome scandal
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Well, that explains a bit about the clergy.
Tom
s2a
Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
An interesting, even bold claim from which there are NO, I mean NONE to be found studies, surveys, polling's, or any evidence of any kind produced as support. I acknowledge my own capacities of prospective error, so I invite you to instead support your claim with any ascertainable and testable fact of any sort beyond wishful thinking. ANY.
It remains fairly clear by means of confession and overwhelming testimonial fact that Catholic priest alone have violated many children (of both genders) in matters repugnant to people of ANY faith. Not speculation, not conspiratorial guesswork. FACT.
You introduce Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaEphebophilia as a dodge, or manifestly prevalent condition found in all faiths. Perhaps that is so.
People are weird. Twisted. Even some are certifiably mentally ill. Gawd forbid, even "teachers". And? Are we to be shocked that laypeople and "ministers" alike do NOT SUPPORT "Ephebophiles"? Really?
Is the only remaining argument then left to us to conclude that "everyone does it"?
Really?
As myself a retired teacher, I only seek to "drill down" to any "essence" of allegation you seek to offer here. Are secularists (as educators) more/less/equal to religious "teachers" in advantaging themselves upon adolescent minors?
I had some "threesomes" in my unmarried youth, none of which involved students. EVER. Not even close. Allegations without ANY proof is not only reprehensibly reckless and irresponsible, it's corrupt and vapid argument on it's face.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Well I knew going in my chances for a threesome would be thin, so I'm not crying in my beer about it.
s2a
Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
I might recommend a few favored crying beers, but that's for another thread.
Apple Sugar
Active Member
"Show me, shut up, or apologize NOW!"
I guess it's bullies with no life that seek to attack women on forums and make it personal. Probably because those bullies have more grey brawn for offensive assaults, verbal assaults, than they have brains or common decency.
Let me help you out. My remarks that you quoted were directed at someone, and you'd see that if you were capable of recognizing context, who defends the rape of adolescents by adults. They also admire and envy the fact that the adults scored on an adolescent. And then after all that perverse Ephebophile blustering they implied they were clergy and a teacher themselves. (per the subject matter of this thread).
Rather than direct my comments that you quoted directly to them, since they implied it was they themselves who were clergy in those remarks I responded to, I posted back in the same sideways manner without making my comments a direct address to someone who repeatedly defends Ephebophilia, assaults those who believe that offense against minors by adults should be prosecuted, and then professes of themselves that they too are clergy, trained in new testament studies, and God help us , a teacher!
Do you see that?
You have a better day.
I guess it's bullies with no life that seek to attack women on forums and make it personal. Probably because those bullies have more grey brawn for offensive assaults, verbal assaults, than they have brains or common decency.
Let me help you out. My remarks that you quoted were directed at someone, and you'd see that if you were capable of recognizing context, who defends the rape of adolescents by adults. They also admire and envy the fact that the adults scored on an adolescent. And then after all that perverse Ephebophile blustering they implied they were clergy and a teacher themselves. (per the subject matter of this thread).
Rather than direct my comments that you quoted directly to them, since they implied it was they themselves who were clergy in those remarks I responded to, I posted back in the same sideways manner without making my comments a direct address to someone who repeatedly defends Ephebophilia, assaults those who believe that offense against minors by adults should be prosecuted, and then professes of themselves that they too are clergy, trained in new testament studies, and God help us , a teacher!
Do you see that?
You have a better day.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
To call this "rape" is a bit of a stretch though. All three of them consented, and he bragged about it.
rape
1.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2.
any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
This act was not compelled through physical force or threat. It is a crime, nonetheless, but to call it "rape" is a bit unwarranted.
I have underage male students. Some are teens. Some have past the age of consent. I even have two male instructors in their mid-20s who are wildly attractive.
There is no way in hell I'd engage in sexual behavior with them. I'd rather stick my hand in a blender.
Most folks are in agreement that teachers banging students is a bad thing.
But the elephant in the room is most definitely the double standard. Female teachers, employers, and any female authority figure are typically assumed to NOT be predatory. I don't buy that for one second. And that male students are typically assumed to NOT be violated. And that is something I don't buy for one second either.
There is no way in hell I'd engage in sexual behavior with them. I'd rather stick my hand in a blender.
Most folks are in agreement that teachers banging students is a bad thing.
But the elephant in the room is most definitely the double standard. Female teachers, employers, and any female authority figure are typically assumed to NOT be predatory. I don't buy that for one second. And that male students are typically assumed to NOT be violated. And that is something I don't buy for one second either.
Apple Sugar
Active Member
It is not a stretch at all. The law says a minor, someone of an age that is not within the scope of consent laws as applied in that state, is incapable of consenting by law.
That's why these women are charged with felony offenses. Unlawful sexual contact with a minor is rape.
That's why these women are charged with felony offenses. Unlawful sexual contact with a minor is rape.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
I didn't say that it wasn't disturbing, and I didn't say that it's not uncommon. Seriously, are you able to think about this clearly?
I can type slower but I don't think that it will do any good.
I believe that I can help you here. Men are from Mars, & women are from Marin County.I didn't say that it wasn't disturbing, and I didn't say that it's not uncommon. Seriously, are you able to think about this clearly?
I can type slower but I don't think that it will do any good.
What the average female will glean from your posts is your tone, which is cavalier.
Sensing this, all nuance & actual information will be replaced with inference of approval.
Typing more slowly won't work. What you'd need to do is convey feelings which match
your intent.
Note: I've largely stayed out of this conversation because even though what the teachers
did was illegal & must remain so, I will unconsciously betray my sense that that he was
one lucky lad, living a fantasy which he will fondly recall for the rest of his life, & be
the envy of all his pals.
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angellous_evangellous
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I had no idea.
Most women I know can add and subtract and handle basic problems while using logic. Hell, I didn't even know I was talking to a woman - I never look at the gender sign when I talk to people.
I thought that my audience was beyond the chain of logical fallacies that would connect me personally with an action that I've repeatedly said that I disagree with.
I mean - I suggest that we should rehab someone who "rapes" someone and all of the sudden I'm a pedophile because I've been ordained. The lack of critical thinking is staggering. It's even offensive. No one, and I mean no one, could have raped logical thinking so brutally and came up with such a creative insult.
I am Satan himself because I don't want lives thrown away flippantly.
**** me, right!
EDIT: And another one of these geniuses doesn't recognize my credentials because I don't agree with everything s/he says. This isn't as hurtful because I had no respect for him/her in the first place -- and I've seen that type of infantile thinking before. The other insult was downright shocking.
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I see too that there is too little nuance in sex laws. We even had a thread a while back
wherein I proposed a formula for severity of punishment based upon factors like age difference.
wherein I proposed a formula for severity of punishment based upon factors like age difference.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I don't know if it's actually happening more. However, it is conceivable, given the fact that there are so many younger teachers now, and people are immature for much longer. I suspect the teachers, in this case, are probably roughly on par with the student maturity-wise. Looking at those girls, they hardly seem more than high school students to me anyway. I suspect that the kid was in control the entire time and had a great time banging those teachers.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
I'd like to start with a durable theory of consent. It's much more difficult to prove that a person is able to consent to sex than it is to prove how old they are.
In this case, I cannot see how the 16 year old kid could not be a consenting adult. I mean, if he killed both of these ladies, people would be screaming that he be tried as an adult. Why is that? Well, he's a few months away from being an "adult" and nothing is going to change between now and then. And it probably doesn't matter if it's his teacher(s) or not.
I daresay the same type of hatred and need to demonize and baselessly criticize others would drive people to destroy his life. Why? Because he knew what he was doing, especially if he bragged to his friends about it, and even more so if he planned it ahead of time.
There's other things to consider - is it even possible for a 16 year old to consent to sex with his teacher? I think absolutely it's possible. Even more possible if he doesn't care about the course.
Oh well. Thinking about this stuff is strictly forbidden.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
It's what's called a proxy proxy bang bang.
What did he do?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I think they definitely should severely punish these women, so as to dissuade other female teachers from sleeping with their male students. It's simply not fair to the rest of us guys who were never lucky enough to have young, slutty teachers around to offer us additional educational opportunities outside of school.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
He killed it killed it!
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Next thing you know they will be ticketing people who help out in soup kitchens.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
New idea: let's just make all threesomes illegal, at least for teachers. Or all sex. That's it. Then we can destroy their lives for any sex that they have, especially if they are hot. Let them rot in prison with those who actually harm society - those who break into homes and steal valuables, murderers, evil CEOs, actual child molesters, tax evaders (just kidding), and those jerks that pirate movies and songs. They have had sex and can offer nothing more to society.