Teens and Sex

[kashmir]

Considering all the trends going on in various threads on this board about this, I have did research to see what the actual data says.
Due to that and what I learned....
Please see the underlined text at the bottom of this post, to what I want the discussion to be about.
Thanks
(I am just bored, prob wont have kids anyway, so this is for everyone else to learn from)

Teen birth rate falls to another historic low

The U.S. data, based directly on birth certificates.
The number of births to teens ages 15-19 in 2013 was 274,641,
The 10% drop in the teen birth rate – to 26.6 births per 1,000 from 29.4 births per 1,000 in 2012 -- marked another historic low.
"A drop of 10% in a single year is quite dramatic," says senior demographer Carl Haub of the nonprofit Population Reference Bureau.

This is a shout out to the other countries

Despite the drastic drops in U.S. teen birth rates, Haub notes that the new low of 26.6 is 5.5 times higher than in Western Europe, where rates are in single digits. The most recent United Nations data shows Switzerland at a low of 1.9 and Luxembourg at a high of 8.3, with most others in the area at 5 or 6 per 1,000 teens.

So how do we know its not due to abortions?
(I had a more up to date site but cant find it now.)
Teen Abortions | Child Trends

The abortion rate among teens ages 15 to 19 declined by 64 percent between 1990 and 2010.

Obviously less girls are getting pregnant, but why?
Less teens are actually having sex, that is why.
(wish I had better data to know the exactness, its interesting stuff)

Now for the bad news.
This data is astounding.
25% of the population (teens having sex) account for 50% of the STD's in the USA.
The data also shows that older guys and younger girls have the highest percents.

New estimates show that there are about 20 million new infections in the United States each year.

Young people age 15 to 24 account for 50 percent of all new STIs, although they represent just 25 percent of the sexually experienced population.

Roughly 75 percent of all reported gonorrhea is found in people age 15 to 29, with the highest infection rates found in teen girls age 15 to 19 and 20 to 24-year-old men.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that there are more than 110 million STIs among men and women in the U.S. This includes both new and existing infections.

The annual number of new infections is roughly equal among teen girls (51 percent) and teen guys (49 percent).

HPV (human papillomavirus) accounts for the majority of prevalent STIs in the U.S.

The U.S. has the highest rate of STD infection in the industrialized world.

46% of American high school students have had sexual intercourse and potentially are at risk for human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection, other STDs.

6 in 10 sexually active high school teens reported using condoms during their most recent sexual intercourse.

1 in 4 teens contracts an STD/STI every year.

If people wish to really dig in deeper to this and actually contribute to the thread in a meaningful way, please do.
I can not find a site that lists all the data that can be compared against itself that has the same dating ratios.
That would be pretty cool to have.

It seems that sexual education has caused a drop in teen sex, which results in less pregnancy, and less abortions.
But the access to other methods against pregnancy besides condoms, has STD's on a huge rise.

 

[Nymphs]

Less teens are actually having sex, that is why.
(wish I had better data to know the exactness, its interesting stuff)

Yeah, I don't think that's it. And seeing as you don't have data for your claim, you will understand why I look at it doubtfully. These numbers are dropping because of education and access to information.

It seems that sexual education has caused a drop in teen sex, which results in less pregnancy, and less abortions.

Where are you drawing this conclusion from?

 

[Nymphs]

Some more stats:

Fewer than 2% of adolescents have had sex by the time they reach their 12th birthday. But adolescence is a time of rapid change. Only 16% of teens have had sex by age 15, compared with one-third of those aged 16, nearly half (48%) of those aged 17, 61% of 18-year-olds and 71% of 19-year-olds.

Teens in the United States and Europe have similar levels of sexual activity. However, European teens are more likely than U.S. teens to use contraceptives generally and to use the most effective methods; they therefore have substantially lower pregnancy rates

Link here

Here is an interesting citation. Pregnancy rates have dropped not because of teens not having sex, but primarily due to better access to contraception:

The decline in teen pregnancy rates in the United States is due primarily to teens’ improved contraceptive use.[20]

 

[Skwim]

I think a lot of the difference in the pregnancy rate between the USA and Europe can be attributed to socio-economic differences.

"Several large studies of mobility in developed countries in recent years have found the US among the lowest in [soci-enomic] mobility. One study (“Do Poor Children Become Poor Adults?") found that of nine developed countries, the United States and United Kingdom had the lowest intergenerational vertical social mobility with about half of the advantages of having a parent with a high income passed on to the next generation. The four countries with the lowest "intergenerational income elasticity", i.e. the highest social mobility, were Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Canada with less than 20% of advantages of having a high income parent passed on to their children.

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According to journalist Jason DeParle.

'At least five large studies in recent years have found the United States to be less mobile than comparable nations. A project led by Markus Jantti, an economist at a Swedish university, found that 42 percent of American men raised in the bottom fifth of incomes stay there as adults. That shows a level of persistent disadvantage much higher than in Denmark (25 percent) and Britain (30 percent) — a country famous for its class constraints'."
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source
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[kashmir]

I think a lot of the difference in the pregnancy rate between the USA and Europe can be attributed to socio-economic differences.

"Several large studies of mobility in developed countries in recent years have found the US among the lowest in [soci-enomic] mobility. One study (“Do Poor Children Become Poor Adults?") found that of nine developed countries, the United States and United Kingdom had the lowest intergenerational vertical social mobility with about half of the advantages of having a parent with a high income passed on to the next generation. The four countries with the lowest "intergenerational income elasticity", i.e. the highest social mobility, were Denmark, Norway, Finland, and Canada with less than 20% of advantages of having a high income parent passed on to their children.

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According to journalist Jason DeParle.

'At least five large studies in recent years have found the United States to be less mobile than comparable nations. A project led by Markus Jantti, an economist at a Swedish university, found that 42 percent of American men raised in the bottom fifth of incomes stay there as adults. That shows a level of persistent disadvantage much higher than in Denmark (25 percent) and Britain (30 percent) — a country famous for its class constraints'."
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source
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Not quite sure what this has to do with the main concept of the rise in STD's even though teens are having less sex and waiting.
Not even sure how its even related to sex, but I am tired too.

But if you wish to show why kids in Europe have way less sex, then in usa, that would be a decent add on to the main topic of STD's on the rise.
Heading out soon, if I don't reply, that is why

 

[Skwim]

Not quite sure what this has to do with the main concept of the rise in STD's even though teens are having less sex and waiting.
Not even sure how its even related to sex, but I am tired too.

It has nothing to do with STD's but was in response to your

"Despite the drastic drops in U.S. teen birth rates, Haub notes that the new low of 26.6 is 5.5 times higher than in Western Europe, where rates are in single digits. The most recent United Nations data shows Switzerland at a low of 1.9 and Luxembourg at a high of 8.3, with most others in the area at 5 or 6 per 1,000 teens."
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But if you wish to show why kids in Europe have way less sex, then in usa, that would be a decent add on to the main topic of STD's on the rise.
Heading out soon, if I don't reply, that is why

I didn't see the STD issue as any more prominent than the other issues you raised. You featured:

"Teen birth rate falls to another historic low"

"This is a shout out to the other countries "

"So how do we know its not due to abortions?
(I had a more up to date site but cant find it now.)
Teen Abortions | Child Trends"

"Obviously less girls are getting pregnant, but why?
Less teens are actually having sex, that is why.
(wish I had better data to know the exactness, its interesting stuff)"
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And then finally

"Now for the bad news.
This data is astounding.
25% of the population (teens having sex) account for 50% of the STD's in the USA.
The data also shows that older guys and younger girls have the highest percents."
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Sorry that I failed to ignore the rest of your post and didn't focus on your last issue.

 

[Sunstone]

All I know is Nymphs avatar is making me want to have teen sex.

 

[Skwim]

All I know is Nymphs avatar is making me want to have teen sex.

Hey! You told me my avatar made you want to have sex.

 

[Nymphs]

All I know is Nymphs avatar is making me want to have teen sex.

Mission complete.

 

[kashmir]

"Obviously less girls are getting pregnant, but why?
Less teens are actually having sex, that is why.
(wish I had better data to know the exactness, its interesting stuff)"
[/INDENT]And then finally

"Now for the bad news.
This data is astounding.
25% of the population (teens having sex) account for 50% of the STD's in the USA.
The data also shows that older guys and younger girls have the highest percents."
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Sorry that I failed to ignore the rest of your post and didn't focus on your last issue.

You quoted the issue my post is raising and say you are not focusing on it?
Doesn't it bother you that 1 in 4 teens contract an STD each year and account for 50% of the US population?
I am lost at what you are even trying to say then.

 

[Penumbra]

The average US citizen is lower in terms of economic level than much of western Europe, when you compare inequality-adjusted per capita figures.

Other than that, most STD rates and teen birth rates are higher in US states that have abstinence-only education. Most teens are going to have sex anyway, but in some places they don't learn about safe sex and in some places they do.

 

[kashmir]

The average US citizen is lower in terms of economic level than much of western Europe, when you compare inequality-adjusted per capita figures.

Other than that, most STD rates and teen birth rates are higher in US states that have abstinence-only education. Most teens are going to have sex anyway, but in some places they don't learn about safe sex and in some places they do.

Not even close to the problem.
Teen sex is acceptable and so much so, they let them use discretion on what to do against pregnancy, the result is less pregnancy and higher STD's.
The data speaks for itself.
Odd no one is even trying to discuss this subject.
Odd indeed.

 

[Penumbra]

Not even close to the problem.
Teen sex is acceptable and so much so, they let them use discretion on what to do against pregnancy, the result is less pregnancy and higher STD's.
The data speaks for itself.
Odd no one is even trying to discuss this subject.
Odd indeed.

What?

Who is "they" in the part of your post I highlighted?

Western Europe has about the same prevalanece of STDs as the US, but has a far lower teen pregnancy rate.

US states differ among themselves dramatically in terms of teen pregnancy and STD risk, with one variable being that states with that do not have comprehensive sex education, have more of these problems in general. Countries in Europe have comprehensive sex education.

Source 1 (STD rate by continent, earlier data)

Source 2 (People in US use condoms less and birth control pills way less.)

Source 3 (HIV rate, recent)

So I think it's pretty clear that there needs to be more and better sex education, both from parents and teachers.

 

[kashmir]

So I think it's pretty clear that there needs to be more and better sex education, both from parents and teachers.

That is exactly what I am saying.
giving them condoms in the USA is not working or STDs would also be declining and it is not is it?

When this is discussed in other threads,
"we don't want our kids being ashamed of their bodies"
"religion is the blame"

hello?
religion is now the blame for the growing STD rate?

No, giving kids condoms and the kid finding out that the girl is on the pill so they need no condom is the damn problem.
The data says this.

denial.
complete denial
because we cant blame religion on that one.
prove me wrong bro/sis

that is the only reason this thread did not go viral, we cant blame religion.

Ten bucks says that someone will try to bring Africa into this when we are discussing USA

 

[Penumbra]

That is exactly what I am saying.
giving them condoms in the USA is not working or STDs would also be declining and it is not is it?

What do you mean it's not working? States that educate people about condom use have lower STD rates and lower pregnancy rates. And Europe has good sex education overall, and their STD rate is roughly the same as the US and their teen birth rate is way lower.

That one source I linked to shows that teens in the US use condoms less often when having sex than in Europe, and use birth control pills way less. No wonder they get pregnant more often.

 

[kashmir]

1 out of 5 teens contracts STDs and on the rise.
Plz find a way to blame religion on that one when kids have full access to condoms and the pill too.

And the thread dies

 

[Penumbra]

1 out of 5 teens contracts STDs and on the rise.
Plz find a way to blame religion on that one when kids have full access to condoms and the pill too.

And the thread dies

You're not being coherent here.

 

[kashmir]

You're not being coherent here.

Huh, what part of STDs are on the rise with teens and growing more and more do you not care about?
troll much?

 

[Penumbra]

Huh, what part of STDs are on the rise with teens and growing more and more do you not care about?

I do care about it. I feel like you're not reading my posts.

Europe has overall better sex education, and their teens use condoms and birth control pills more often.

STD rates differ dramatically around the US. The risks for it are being in a heavily populated area, and not using safer sex methods. Some places do a better job of teaching kids how to use and be responsible about this stuff than other places. Many parents barely talk to their kids about sex at all.

Pick an STD, like gonorrhea here, and see how much it can vary from place to place.

 

[kashmir]

I do care about it. I feel like you're not reading my posts.

Europe has overall better sex education, and their teens use condoms and birth control pills more often.

STD rates differ dramatically around the US. The risks for it are being in a heavily populated area, and not using safer sex methods. Some places do a better job of teaching kids how to use and be responsible about this stuff than other places. Many parents barely talk to their kids about sex at all.

Pick an STD, like gonorrhea here, and see how much it can vary from place to place.

No, you are mistaken
Your very first post says this:
Other than that, most STD rates and teen birth rates are higher in US states that have abstinence-only education.

You are dead wrong, kids are given condoms and the pill and told abstinence works too.
Sex among teens is down some
preg and abortions is down
STDS are up.

That is what the data says.

Every single thread in this board about teens and sex in the usa blames religion.
You even resorted to the abstinence-only education, which those against religion do too.

kids are given condoms and the pill and told abstinence works too.
Sex among teens is down some what.,,'abstinence"
preg and abortions is down big time. "birth control"
STDS are up big time. "not using condoms"

care to actually figure out why this time?