Televangelist Marcus Lamb Who Called Vaccine Mandate 'Sin' Against God Dies Of COVID

[SkepticThinker]

Neither. If they are coughing on me I expect to get sprayed either way, unless they have on a gas mask.

Then I'm sorry to say your view on this is irrational.
Thanks for playing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Seems to me it’s preferable that someone who has to urinate would go to a bathroom and do so in the toilet. And if someone has to cough they would turn their face aside and cover their mouth, rather than cough directly toward someone else.

Yes it would be preferable that someone go to a washroom, of course. But if they were standing beside you peeing, would you rather they have their pants on, or off?
Similarly, if someone is standing close to you "speaking moistly" (as our PM once said) or coughing or sneezing or whatever, would you rather they have a mask on, or off?

Is this analogy really that hard to grasp?

Geez, this is like pulling teeth.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Really? Seemed to me it was about the same time period for my brother who wasn't jabbed and my wife who was.

Great. When you've done a study on it, let us know. Otherwise, anecdotes don't really help us.

 

[Wildswanderer]

When their choices affect the rest of the population of the country, they do. People who care about their country and its citizens (patriots) do not intentionally cause harm to other members of the country. Terrorists do that.

No one is intentionally causing harm by making their own health decisions.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You changed my words in a quote attributed to me. That is a misrepresentation.

There is nothing unique in my insisting that I do not get misquoted.

This is important because some people browse these threads lightly. They don't always see the context.

There's no way that could happen. I highlighted the change and quoted "corrected".

So anyone reading it would know it wasnt your orginal words or intent.

Everyone would know it was me.

I just used @Revoltingest the grand most high professor of the university QUOTE box antics, of which I was an inspired student, and yes, even a 'victim' myself of quote box antics.

Honestly as it upsets you so, I will refrain from enjoying a little license and fun with your quote box in the interest of respect and continued debate without any personal conflict outside the debate subject.

Hopefully that will settle the matter amicably enough.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Vaccines prevent the virus or Vaccines don't.

That's exactly the question at hand. You seem to want to ignore that fact.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Great. When you've done a study on it, let us know. Otherwise, anecdotes don't really help us.

Interpretation: real life experiences don't matter. only what we are told to believe.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Yes it would be preferable that someone go to a washroom, of course. But if they were standing beside you peeing, would you rather they have their pants on, or off?

I would leave. Then it wouldn't matter.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Interpretation: real life experiences don't matter. only what we are told to believe.

LOL Nope.

Wanna try again?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I would leave. Then it wouldn't matter.

Thanks for avoiding the point at all costs. We all know the answer to the question, even if you refuse to admit it.

 

[metis]

Then the mask is useless.

Absolutely false, as a great many studies have shown, plus the comparison of countries and school districts that mandated masks versus those that didn't. However, between the masks and the vaccines + boosters, the latter is more effective.

But the official story is that only sprayed droplets are the problem and they will only going as far as to say as the mask stops some of that...no guarantees.

That is simply not true, and we've known that since mid-last year. So, where are you getting your putrid garbage from???

Really? Seemed to me it was about the same time period for my brother who wasn't jabbed and my wife who was.

That makes no sense.

Listen, if you want to play dumb, that's your choice, but I feel so sorry for those who have to associate with you as you are putting them in greater danger with your care-less attitude. Simply doing the research from reputable scientific sources could correct you, but it seems that you have 0 interest in doing the research.

I'm done with you on this as you continue to either invent misinformation or you are parroting them. Either way, I'm out of this conversation.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Seems to me it’s preferable that someone who has to urinate would go to a bathroom and do so in the toilet.

In the analogy, that would be the equivalent of lockdown: not urinating around other people at all.

 

[Revoltingest]

I just used @Revoltingest the grand most high professor of the university QUOTE box antics, of which I was an inspired student, and yes, even a 'victim' myself of quote box antics.

Not sure....but I'm inclined to take that as a positive thing.

 

[Wildswanderer]

LOL Nope.

Wanna try again?

That's exactly what you are actually saying.
Obey at all costs and never question the official story.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Absolutely false, as a great many studies have shown, plus the comparison of countries and school districts that mandated masks versus those that didn't. However, between the masks and the vaccines + boosters, the latter is more effective.

That is simply not true, and we've known that since mid-last year. So, where are you getting your putrid garbage from???

That makes no sense.

Listen, if you want to play dumb, that's your choice, but I feel so sorry for those who have to associate with you as you are putting them in greater danger with your care-less attitude. Simply doing the research from reputable scientific sources could correct you, but it seems that you have 0 interest in doing the research.

I'm done with you on this as you continue to either invent misinformation or you are parroting them. Either way, I'm out of this conversation.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt...

 

[Wildswanderer]

That makes no sense.

Reality seldom makes sense to people who prefer the party line.

 

[Secret Chief]

No one is intentionally causing harm by making their own health decisions.

Not intentionally no. But, as a group, yes they are causing harm, including death.

(Is it really December 2021 )

 

[InChrist]

Yes it would be preferable that someone go to a washroom, of course. But if they were standing beside you peeing, would you rather they have their pants on, or off?
Similarly, if someone is standing close to you "speaking moistly" (as our PM once said) or coughing or sneezing or whatever, would you rather they have a mask on, or off?

Is this analogy really that hard to grasp?

Geez, this is like pulling teeth.

It’s not that it’s that hard to grasp your attempt at an analogy, but I think you are grasping at straws. I see no comparison between someone deliberately peeing on another person and the use or non-use of facial masks. I actually think the attempt to connect the two is disgusting. Now if you were to compare someone deliberately peeing on another person to someone purposely coughing or sneezing in someone’s face I may see some validity, but that’s not what you are doing.
If people want to wear a mask fine, but if others prefer not to, that is fine as far as I am concerned. It doesn’t bother me. I wear a mask when required or around those who are more comfortable with them, but not around those who don’t. I refuse to look at people as contaminated threats. I value human interaction and seeing people’s faces and smiles and give precedence to that over living in fear of a virus (any virus).
So from my perspective the analogy is not valid.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That's exactly what you are actually saying.
Obey at all costs and never question the official story.

Nope.
What I said exactly was that anecdotes aren't evidence (and they aren't data).
I would say that whether we were talking about COVID or about auto mechanics or about anything else. Because they aren't.

Your last sentence there sounds like one of my conspiracy-theory-minded Facebook friends who gets his "information" from YouTube videos and calls it data.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It’s not that it’s that hard to grasp your attempt at an analogy, but I think you are grasping at straws. I see no comparison between someone deliberately peeing on another person and the use or non-use of facial masks.

I've explained it several times now. What don't you get?

If a person is peeing near you, would you prefer they pee their pants, or have their pants off and pee all over the place? In which scenario are you exposed to something (someone else's pee) that you don't want to be exposed to? If the person is wearing pants, they're less likely to get urine on you, right? Similarly, if a person is wearing a mask, they're less likely to get anything that comes out of their mouth or nose on you, right?

I actually think the attempt to connect the two is disgusting.

LOL Why?

Peeing on someone is about as disgusting as coughing on someone during a pandemic.

Now if you were to compare someone deliberately peeing on another person to someone purposely coughing or sneezing in someone’s face I may see some validity, but that’s not what you are doing.

You need to read the analogy again, I think.

The problem is that when a person speaks, breathes, coughs, sneezes, whatever, particles come out of their nose and mouth. Someone doesn't even have to be deliberately coughing on you for the particles to enter your respiratory system - they could just be talking to you normally. Masks just help to block as many of those particles as possible from floating around in the are and entering your respiratory system.

If people want to wear a mask fine, but if others prefer not to, that is fine as far as I am concerned. It doesn’t bother me. I wear a mask when required or around those who are more comfortable with them, but not around those who don’t. I refuse to look at people as contaminated threats. I value human interaction and seeing people’s faces and smiles and give precedence to that over living in fear of a virus (any virus).
So from my perspective the analogy is not valid.

The thing is that when we wear a mask, we are wearing it to protect others from ourselves and vice versa. So when a person doesn't wear a mask, it's as if they don't care about others, which is disconcerting to me during a global pandemic that has killed 5 million people. They're saying that their personal preferences trump other peoples' health, and that bothers me.