Secret Chief
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Regarding viral transmission, MY health is partly YOUR responsibility.
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Televangelist Marcus Lamb Who Called Vaccine Mandate 'Sin' Against God Dies Of COVID
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lostwanderingsoul
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Which one is serious or deadly? Getting a vaccine or not getting it? Seems like thousands have died who did not get the vaccine but only a handful have had serious problems after getting the vaccine.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Which freedoms, exactly?
I keep hearing this but I never actually see it articulated.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
There have been vaccine travel restrictions in place for certain parts of the world for like 50+ years now. That is nothing new.
There have been vaccine restrictions on children entering school for at least 50+ years. That is nothing new either.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Giving the footage of government crackdowns I'm surprised you don't see it.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
It seems like they think the government is taking away your freedom to spread disease to others. If they do not care about their own health, let them go live in isolation somewhere so they do not spread their problems to others.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Given the footage of thousands of people dying from Covid it would seem anyone in their righ tmind would want to avoid death.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
For some folks, Jesus is their health insurance. Not sure if that plan covers the cost of burial though.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
Jesus did not seem to help Mr Lamb, who was a minister. Maybe the vaccine is better insurance.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Again, it gets transmitted by both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
And no it's not. You are responsible to stay away from people if you don't want infected. That's the only sure way.
Australian here. Restrictions were largely lifted once our vaccination goals were reached. Though the Omicron variant is being monitored rather cautiously
Ours don’t. Because our hospitals don’t charge you for well anything really. That’s paid for by our taxes. And yet it’s the same exact principle. Vaccinate and save beds. Save beds equals saving lives. And lessening the strain of the health workers.
Funny that
You know the stories I’ve heard? Ones from actual health workers on the front lines lamenting that those unvaccinated (not even anti vax people just those who dragged their feet) in hospital begging to be vaccinated. Only to be told it was too late. It’s actually kind of heartbreaking, tbh
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
No that is not the only way. People who do not want the vaccine could stay away from others. If everyone without the vaccine was isolated from all contacts it would be a very sure way they do not spread disease.
ecco
Veteran Member
How many times do you need to be told that we don't give a *#$% about your health. We care that unvaccinated people are the primary spreaders of a deadly disease.
If people wanted to risk getting measles no one would care but for the fact that they then gave it to other people.
That is so simple a ten-year-old child can understand it.
ecco
Veteran Member
You still have not been able to articulate what you mean by "Government Control" and "More Control". Perhaps that is because it is difficult to put paranoia into coherent words.
Given that there’s no way to know who is vaxxed, you’re suggesting isolation for in vaxxed individuals.
No, just no. I don’t know what planet you come from but it doesn’t work that way on Earth. Get vaxxed, wear a mask, YOU stay home then.
ecco
Veteran Member
You have just demonstrated that you do not understand the way that hospitals make profits.
Do hospitals make money from COVID-19 patients? MMH says ‘no’ | Yourbasin
Posted: Sep 14, 2021 / 12:59 PM
MIDLAND, Texas (Nexstar)- Throughout the pandemic, people on both sides of the fence have taken to social media questioning hospitals about the money they are making from continued coronavirus hospitalizations. Posted: Sep 14, 2021 / 12:59 PM
Do hospitals make money from these patient admissions?
“I can assure you, we’re not,” said Midland Memorial Hospital’s Chief Operations Officer Stephen Bowerman in a news conference held Tuesday. “We’re not making any money.”
The hospital says it has had to hire countless traveling healthcare workers to help meet the demand for more hospital beds amid the most recent surge. Those workers come at a great cost to the hospital. Now, the City Council and the County Commissioners have stepped up to help with some of those costs.
“With the last couple of months and the census spike we’ve seen, we would have had significant losses if it wasn’t for the City and the County stepping up to provide over 4.75 million dollars in grant money,” Bowerman said.
The hospital says the grant money will help cover the cost of travel nurses, as well as provide incentives for the MMH staff who have been working tirelessly since cases began to rise again this summer.
The hospital says the loss of elective surgical procedures is hitting the hospital hard.
“We have stopped doing any overnight elective cases in our hospital. The surgical cases and procedural cases that we normally run are the significant money makers for the hospital,” said Chief Medical Officer Dr. Larry Wilson.
Cutting out those surgeries has been a sacrifice to the overall hospital revenue, according to Wilson.
ecco
Veteran Member
Glad to see you admit you are paranoid. Not that it was necessary. Some things are obvious from your comments.
Give some examples of this consolidation to get rid of competition.
The vaxxed spread it and can die from it, too! I thought this was common knowledge by now!
ecco
Veteran Member
Perhaps you are unaware that polio affected mainly children. Children who are unvaccinated cannot attend public schools.
Covid, so far, affects mainly adults. They are the ones getting sick, they are the ones spreading the disease. Therefore adults are the ones that need to be affected by restrictions.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
You say you like to "be aware of what is taking place" but you are unaware of the need for restrictions. Are you getting your awareness from FaceBook or Fox?
ecco
Veteran Member
For how many people was not getting vaccinated deadly? 770,000 and counting.
For how many people was getting vaccinated deadly?
Please respond and show the source for your comments.