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Televangelist Marcus Lamb Who Called Vaccine Mandate 'Sin' Against God Dies Of COVID

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Not true. Some people would rather get it so they can develop natural immunity.
Obviously we go to restaurants anyway and you can not eat with a mask on, so it is what it is. Everyone is gonna be exposed at some point, unless totally isolated.
I would suggest that those people aren't particularly bright.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That's where these arguments are failing... they're hyperbole and melodrama.
Oh you mean like your example where we're dying and we need CPR from you? That wasn't hyperbole and melodrama, right?

Possibly, but both examples you used are bacterial infections, which so far are relatively easy to treat with antibiotics. Viral diseases, not so much. Antibiotics are useless.
It sounds like you're trying to sidestep the point that poster was obviously making.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Which is stupid. Does the virus not infect sitting people? But most people aren't wearing masks here at all, so it's not universal. To believe that piece of cloth is stopping it is niave, anyway.
How can anyone not understand how that "piece of cloth" is blocking the droplets that come out of your nose and mouth from shooting onto other people?
It's pretty basic.

Maybe this will help ...

The guy standing beside you and facing you is going to urinate. Would you rather he have pants on while he does so, or would you rather he have his pants off? Which way do you think you will get his pee on you, and which way do you think he won't get his pee on you?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
How is it stupid? You are going to be exposed anyway. It's inevitable, unless you become a hermit. I never feared the flu either, but I had it when younger enough to develop some immunity apparently.
Sounds like you should get vaccinated then, if you are "going to be exposed anyway." ;)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I'm not worried. There's enough evidence that others can see and understand fine, for which unfortunately, your apparent handicap prevents you from noticing what's going on from just about every news agency that is reporting those violations of freedom all over the net.
Evidence that nobody can seem to articulate, because it's bunk. Which is the very thing I said in the first place.
Thanks for demonstrating my point for me. :)

Now you're going to try to insult me, after you've failed to provide one single freedom that anybody has lost? That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, pal.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
It's why I included "arguably" in my post in regards to Australia. I get mixed signals from Oz.

Some say it's way overblown and nothing is a real concern, and others are saying it's a madhouse.

I'm guessing it's where you live rather than the whole countryside that determines how bad or good things are.

I can't argue with someone who actually lives there so I'm taking it provisionally on my end.
I get similar mixed signals from the US. How they’re on the brink of total destruction. That god will come down and smote all the sinners. But I’m sure you would agree that it’s more prudent to reject hyperbole and focus on something a little more tangible.

If you’re to judge/speculate on the state of my country on what alarmists tell you, should I then judge the US for what the alarmists tell me?
If I were to do that then I’d have to conclude that the US is already a fascist dictatorship that puts even 1984 to shame.
Which might be good for political rhetoric and stirring up your voter base. But seems a bit far fetched all the same. Especially since that’s been a constant complaint for longer than I’ve been alive, apparently.
Still that’s many of the signals I constantly get from the US. On both sides of the political aisle, for what it’s worth
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Not dumb at all. Either you can't answer it or you know that the answer isn't to your liking. I already know your claim is stupid, so it doesn't matter to me if you want to bother defending it. Just funny to see.
Your comment is really not worth answering, but I will anyway. There are only two questions:
Will you bother reading it?
Will it finally sink in?

I'm guessing no to both. Ignorance is bliss.
https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163-573284--,00.htmlFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Dec. 2, 2021

CONTACT: Lynn Sutfin, 517-241-2112

LANSING, Mich. - As Michigan continues to record high numbers of COVID-19 cases, new data from the Michigan Health & Hospital Association (MHA) proves that the majority of Michigan residents severely sick with COVID-19 are unvaccinated. The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) and MHA are pleading with residents to get vaccinated for their own health, the safety of Michigan's health care personnel, and to avoid additional strain on health care systems that are already stretched and struggling to respond.

"The data is clear: if you are unvaccinated, you are risking hospitalization or death," said Elizabeth Hertel, MDHHS director. "We have a safe and effective vaccine that is quite literally saving lives. Michigan residents absolutely need to get vaccinated to keep their loved ones safe this holiday."

Based on recent data from most Michigan health systems, MHA has found that three out of four COVID patients are unvaccinated (76%), 87% of COVID ICU patients are unvaccinated and 88% of COVID ventilator patients are unvaccinated.​
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
87% of COVID ICU patients are unvaccinated and 88% of COVID ventilator patients are unvaccinated.
I believe that.
I do wonder though, how many of those are anti-vaxx and how many have other reasons for not being jabbed. It may be that those people who are in ICU had compromised immune systems in the first place.

Statistics don't always provide the bigger picture.
They can be used to suggest things by omission.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I do wonder though, how many of those are anti-vaxx and how many have other reasons for not being jabbed.

All you need to do is listen to them. Here, on FaceBook, in the news. They will tell you the reason they are not vaccinated is:
  • They don't want Big Brother injecting them with microchips.
  • They don't want Big Brother injecting them with anything, they don't even want Big Brother forcing them to wear masks.
  • They believe they are immune because they are very healthy individuals.
  • They believe they are immune because God made them immune.
  • They believe if they get sick and die, it's God's will.
It may be that those people who are in ICU had compromised immune systems in the first place.

"It may be"? Why guess? do you have any verifiable statistics?

If people are immune-compromised because they are undergoing something like chemotherapy, you better believe they are exceptionally careful about where they go and who they see. By and large, the people in the ICU's are in the list I provided above.
 
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