Tennessee A.G. uses private medical records in Republican campaign against trans people

[fantome profane]

Vanderbilt University Medical Center has turned over medical records for transgender patients to the Tennessee attorney general's team in what his office confirmed is an investigation into potential medical billing fraud."...

Transparent excuse. Do you really think they were investigating fraud that only happened to transgender patients? I don't believe that garbage for a millisecond.

 

[We Never Know]

Transparent excuse. Do you really think they were investigating fraud that only happened to transgender patients? I don't believe that garbage for a millisecond.

Oh come now. You sound like a MAGA conspiracy theory person.
Maybe read about it more...if whats written is true, seems legit to me. Seems the video was true being they paused it all after the video.

"Tennessee in particular has been caught in the center of the conflict over transgender youth medical care — ever since video surfaced on social media last year of a Nashville doctor touting that gender-affirming procedures are "huge money makers" for hospitals. Vanderbilt paused all gender-affirming surgeries for minors afterward.

The video prompted calls by Tennessee's Republican leaders for an investigation into Vanderbilt. At the time, none of the politicians could point to a specific law that the hospital had violated.

The private nonprofit hospital said it had provided only a handful of gender-affirming surgeries to minors over the years, but has put a temporary pause on the procedures to review its policies."

 

[Subduction Zone]

It sounds to me as if there needs to be an investigation of the VMUC and the state Attorney General. Their actions sound was if they may have violated Federal laws.

 

[SkepticThinker]

If may be the only way concerned parents can get information about their children, that the Democrat party has brainwashed and kidnapped in Public Schools. The teachers condition the children behind their backs and then call the parents domestic terrorists if they complain. Under such conditions, is it OK for the parents to see these hidden records, if the parents are supporting these underage children? Or does the Democrats Party own their children and are entitled to donations from Big Med and Pharm to supply them free lab rats to practice on?

Ohhhhh I see, it's the Democrat's fault, not the actual fault of the actual person doing it. Suuuure.

 

[Callisto]

Yeah when someone purposely leaves out links to the story, the full story stays hidden.

I didn't leave out the link, it's in my first sentence. Click on "Associated Press".

Sounds like a weak excuse. For a fraud investigation anonymous transaction data or maximally anonymised patient data would have sufficed.

Privacy laws still don't permit the wanton turning over of unredacted records. The fact that there was some sort of treatment and some sort of billing is all that is required.

I'm not the one to debate, take it up with Skremetti or AP given it's their release cited. I posted it in order to add some context to help further the discussion since there was no indication as to why the records were pulled in the first place.

 

[We Never Know]

I didn't leave out the link, it's in my first sentence. Click on "Associated Press".




I'm not the one to debate, take it up with Skremetti or AP given it's their release cited. I posted it in order to add some context to help further the discussion since there was no indication as to why the records were pulled in the first place.

"I didn't leave out the link, it's in my first sentence. Click on "Associated Press".

Not you, the OP didn't put a link.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I started this thread only 6 days ago -- and look where we go next: From the Tennessean, yesterday: Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti wants the state to be able to investigate and compel information on out-of-state abortions. This started with the private health records of trans people seeking treatment -- but now they want the private medical records of any Tennessean woman who has had an abortion -- IN ANOTHER STATE, WHERE IT IS LEGAL.

But not only in Tennessee -- Republican AGs in 19 states: Arkansa, Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippe, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Utah, have all signed a letter and sent it to the Biden Administration about their right (as they see it) to get your private medical records. Your private medical records in other states where the treatment you sought was completely legal. And might that care, soon, not include fertility clinics or contraception? I don't see why not.

How far are Republicans going to go with this? I am beginning to sense real panic -- that they're beginning to fear their stance on this issue is not playing well, and are now trying desperately to rile up their base. For what reason isn't clear to me.

But the Republicans are -- as they'll proudly tell you themselves -- the party of limited government. This, folks, isn't limited government. This is outrageous over-reach. This is "Big Brother is watching you!"

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Transparent excuse. Do you really think they were investigating fraud that only happened to transgender patients? I don't believe that garbage for a millisecond.

That sort of fraud was a regular occurrence where I worked, and it wasn't in regards to people being trans. It was getting people the treatment they needed that insurance was otherwise denying.
It's like thise boneheads who complain that a few detransition and regret transitioning but don't say **** about routine surgeries that no one questions or challenges these surgeries despite the fact they don't have the guidance or counseling of gender affirming surgeries and do come with substantially higher regrets than gender affirming surgeries.
They're nothing more than shameless, dogmatic partisans.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That sort of fraud was a regular occurrence where I worked, and it wasn't in regards to people being trans. It was getting people the treatment they needed that insurance was otherwise denying.
It's like thise boneheads who complain that a few detransition and regret transitioning but don't say **** about routine surgeries that no one questions or challenges these surgeries despite the fact they don't have the guidance or counseling of gender affirming surgeries and do come with substantially higher regrets than gender affirming surgeries.
They're nothing more than shameless, dogmatic partisans.

The Republicans are sounding like Frauditors now. Frauditors are people that call themselves First Amendment Auditors, but they are mainly interested in YouTube money. Videoing the police is fine. But Frauditors tend to try to take cameras where they are invading the privacy of average citizens. For example many courthouses ban videoing because many people are there because they have to be. They may be innocent people bring tried for a crime. Victims of crimes, such as domestic abuse. And the guilty too. Most of them do not want their private business made public. They even go so far as to film at DSHS offices at times. They have the same false claim of breaking the law for the public good.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Republicans are sounding like Frauditors now. Frauditors are people that call themselves First Amendment Auditors, but they are mainly interested in YouTube money. Videoing the police is fine. But Frauditors tend to try to take cameras where they are invading the privacy of average citizens. For example many courthouses ban videoing because many people are there because they have to be. They may be innocent people bring tried for a crime. Victims of crimes, such as domestic abuse. And the guilty too. Most of them do not want their private business made public. They even go so far as to film at DSHS offices at times. They have the same false claim of breaking the law for the public good.

Trials are a public affairs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Trials are a public affairs.

Yes. Anyone can go to them. But there are very good reasons that one cannot video them.

 

[fantome profane]

The Republicans are sounding like Frauditors now. Frauditors are people that call themselves First Amendment Auditors, but they are mainly interested in YouTube money. Videoing the police is fine. But Frauditors tend to try to take cameras where they are invading the privacy of average citizens. For example many courthouses ban videoing because many people are there because they have to be. They may be innocent people bring tried for a crime. Victims of crimes, such as domestic abuse. And the guilty too. Most of them do not want their private business made public. They even go so far as to film at DSHS offices at times. They have the same false claim of breaking the law for the public good.

I know you have an issue with first amendment auditors, but I don't understand what relevance that has here. It is legal in most states to film in a court house, just not in a court room. And generally it is legal to film anywhere the public is allowed to be.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know you have an issue with first amendment auditors, but I don't understand what relevance that has here. It is legal in most states to film in a court house, just not in a court room. And generally it is legal to film anywhere the public is allowed to be.

No. I have an issue with those that abuse it. There are areas where one cannot simply go in and video.

Videoing police actions? As long as they are not interfering that is fine. And no, many courthouses ban videoing inside of them. Not just in the courtrooms. Another place where it is usually illegal is inside Social Security offices. Quite often the people there are the poor. They usually do not want their plight made public. Also private businesses can ban videoing if they want to.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes. Anyone can go to them. But there are very good reasons that one cannot video them.

Actually it's not a blanket, concrete no.