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Terrorist kills Imam & assistent outside Mosque NY

Tumah

Veteran Member
I wish this apply on Muslims crimes too.
Maybe you're wish will be fulfilled and we'll find out this was!

قَالُوا بَشَّرْنَاكَ بِالْحَقِّ فَلَا تَكُنْ مِنَ الْقَانِطِينَ​

Don't give up hope!
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
I swear these threads are created with the sole intent to stir up debate over the term "terrorist/terrorism", almost like it's a contest.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
While I agree that there is a bias in the media to automatically apply the label 'terrorist' if it's even hinted at if the perpetrator is a) Muslim, b) brown or a combination of both; I will be interested to see if the OP's reaction changes if it turns out this was attack was a case of Muslim sectarianism.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Muslims DO murder other Muslims.
Hate knows no bounds.
ISIS’s Gruesome Muslim Death Toll
https://www.yahoo.com/news/isis-gruesome-muslim-death-toll-094500438--politics.html?ref=gs
"What makes this 26-page report (PDF) so powerful is that it describes to us the gruesome circumstances in which ISIS has killed fellow Muslims. We are talking beheadings, killing of women for objecting to ISIS’ policies, and executing Sunni Muslim clerics for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS."

ISIS. Equal opportunity murder in the name of Allah.
Islam: the most violent religion in the world.
Islam: "The Religion of Peace".

I believe Islam IS a religion of peace. Sad a few extremists have it all wrong.
Christians got things all wrong and embarked on the Crusades.
How many hundreds of years ago was that anyway?

The crusades ended about the year 1350 but I could be wrong.
How long ago was that anyway?
Lessee??? This is 2021, and that was way back in 1350 so it was.....................................
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
Usually the application of the label is based upon political motivation which has not been established. People toss around the label terrorist for any act against their group these days. If they were targeted due to being Muslim then it is a hate crime and acts of a bigots.
he was inspired by Trump, so clearly political motivated
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
Not every murder is an act of terrorism. And not every Rabbi that's killed is due to terrorism. Some are hate crimes and some are even accidents.

Expand your vocabulary. Expand your mind.
Rabbi Tumah, thats the wish of every zionist. However i reject zionist conspiracy to lable muslims as terrorists.


For me the killer was 100% christian/jewish/atheist(doesnt matter what religion or thinking he was) terrorist.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Rabbi Tumah, thats the wish of every zionist. However i reject zionist conspiracy to lable muslims as terrorists.
What...?

For me the killer was 100% christian/jewish/atheist(doesnt matter what religion or thinking he was) terrorist.
You understand that terrorism already has a definition and we can't arbitrarily redefine it, right?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I can say it's just switch label, depend the criminal religion.

A label switch that seems entire motivated by your whims.

let's switch the situation :) :
If "non-Muslim"were target due to being non-Muslim then it is a hate crime and acts of a bigots ?

Only if the perpetrator was a Muslim. Non-Muslim means nothing to those outside of Islam nor is used as a basis by those outside of Islam.


"I killed him because he wasn't a Muslim and I was a Christian!"

If this makes sense to you I do not know what to say...
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Muslims DO murder other Muslims.
Hate knows no bounds.
This is it .
Muslims are also the majority victimes of this cancer.
we are the first defence for that , hunderd thousands gave their soul to defend for you and me .





ISIS. Equal opportunity murder in the name of Allah.
...
Fact is many people did crime by the name of their religion .
Nor you or us had an exception .

ISIS and Alqeada is almost Western made,by the help of their followers "kings of oil" and Turkey.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
This is it .
Muslims are also the majority victimes of this cancer.
we are the first defence for that , hunderd thousands gave their soul to defend for you and me .

Elaborate on that ^^^^ please.
Just who in the Muslim world gave their lives for me? Or any Christian.
How long ago did this great sacrifice happen?
I love the Muslim beliefs as I KNOW it's the "religion of peace".
Sadly this motto has become a piece of others all blown up and shot full of holes.

Fact is many people did crime by the name of their religion .
Nor you or us had an exception .

ISIS and Alqeada is almost Western made,by the help of their followers "kings of oil" and Turkey.

Explain how the WEST forced the Muslim world to form ISIS and Al Queda?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
A label switch that seems entire motivated by your whims.
Not me.
For me all crime are equal in label without looking for the religion or race .

media is bias on this.

Only if the perpetrator was a Muslim. Non-Muslim means nothing to those outside of Islam nor is used as a basis by those outside of Islam.


"I killed him because he wasn't a Muslim and I was a Christian!"

If this makes sense to you I do not know what to say...
I think it's about religious crime .

I will take your exemple :)
SO killing a Christian (or Western) by Muslim the Western media called it automatically terrorist attack.

but when someone Christian(Western) killed a Muslim ,the Western media call it hate crime or crime.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Explain how the WEST forced the Muslim world to form ISIS and Al Queda?
All the same they switch the label.

BY Involve in civil war and support it by weapons and men,change regimes to make voilence.by name of democraty!

back to history , and I always mentioned to that !
It's known that "West" especialy USA supported Alqaeda and Taliban against Soviet Union , do you ignore that ?
EDITED to ADD
It's know that West supported what rebels by weapons for 4 years in Syria,recently discovered they are terrorists ?
I mentionned and warned about that before 5 years ago , but most of people don't take it seriously,on contrary some people try to justify it .

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...t-the-terrorism-in-syria.137136/#post-3040126
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
despite I disagree with some of his views, but I think he has big courage to tells some truth sometimes.

USA: "Obama, he is the founder of ISIS" - Trump
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Not me.
For me all crime are equal in label without looking for the religion or race .

We are talking about motivates if you have forgotten.

media is bias on this.

This does not make your subjective opinion right or even worth considering.


I think it's about religious crime .

Non-Muslim means nothing outside of Islam.

I will take your exemple :)
SO killing a Christian (or Western) by Muslim the Western media called it automatically terrorist attack.

That was not my example and you know it. I said a Christian killing a non-Muslim for being a non-Muslim. This is pure nonsense. A Christian won't kill someone for being a non-Muslim as a motive. You dishonesty has been noted, again.

I have yet to see such a label stick without evidence towards a motive that is political.

but when someone Christian(Western) killed a Muslim ,the Western media call it hate crime or crime.

Again this goes back to evidence of a motivate. You speculate on motives, nothing more.
 
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