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Texas will end its botched voter citizenship review and rescind its list of flagged voters

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The world is on fire
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beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Interesting. I kept seeing in the article (and in other articles over the last couple of years that this issue has been regularly in the news) the following term: "of naturalized citizens" as if there is a difference before the law between "naturalized" and I would suppose, "normal, American-born" citizens...as if people who legally immigrate and pass the citizenship test are not quite real citizens...
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Interesting. I kept seeing in the article (and in other articles over the last couple of years that this issue has been regularly in the news) the following term: "of naturalized citizens" as if there is a difference before the law between "naturalized" and I would suppose, "normal, American-born" citizens...as if people who legally immigrate and pass the citizenship test are not quite real citizens...
Naturalized citizen is a citizen that has gone through a procedure to get it. In some countries it's easy to get naturalized like in the US or most of Europe. In China it's close to impossible to become naturalized.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Must be that those "at some point in time in citizens" furned out to be citizens when they voted after all.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
When dead people have their right to vote revoked I'll be happy.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Interesting. I kept seeing in the article (and in other articles over the last couple of years that this issue has been regularly in the news) the following term: "of naturalized citizens" as if there is a difference before the law between "naturalized" and I would suppose, "normal, American-born" citizens...as if people who legally immigrate and pass the citizenship test are not quite real citizens...

Well according to our Constitution one has to be a "natural born citizen" to become President. So there is a difference before the law between a "naturalized" and "natural born" citizen
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Naturalized citizen is a citizen that has gone through a procedure to get it. In some countries it's easy to get naturalized like in the US or most of Europe. In China it's close to impossible to become naturalized.
Yes, but my point is, why is that distinction being made, repeatedly, not only in that article but in other coverage...once a citizen, you are a citizen, there is no legal distinction (in America) under the law.

But there does seem to be a social and political difference, and it seems it's rooted such features as foreign-sounding names...
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Well. Well. Well. After being touted by some, it turns out that the original claim was "flawed from the start".

Texas will end its botched voter citizenship review and rescind its list of flagged voters

Three months after first questioning the citizenship status of almost 100,000 registered voters, the Texas secretary of state has agreed to end a review of the voter rolls for supposed noncitizens that was flawed from the start.

I called BS on this months ago as it uses outdated databases, run by the government itself, which could of been resolved with cross checking other databases, also run by the government.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Yes, but my point is, why is that distinction being made, repeatedly, not only in that article but in other coverage...once a citizen, you are a citizen, there is no legal distinction (in America) under the law.

But there does seem to be a social and political difference, and it seems it's rooted such features as foreign-sounding names...
See post #6 as far as a legal distinction in the U.S. under the law. Or are you saying that the Constitution is not "law".
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
See post #6 as far as a legal distinction in the U.S. under the law. Or are you saying that the Constitution is not "law".
In court, under the law, a citizen is a citizen. Under the Constitution; although the exact requirements are set by Congress--as a provision of its powers under the Constitution.

Or are you saying that naturalized citizens are not afforded all the rights and privileges of citizens?
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Sorry, hit send too soon. Yes, the office of President--and Vice President--are limited to native-born citizens. Are there any other limitations? I am not aware of any.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Sorry, hit send too soon. Yes, the office of President--and Vice President--are limited to native-born citizens. Are there any other limitations? I am not aware of any.
Natural born, not native born. Ted Cruz, for example, is native born in Canada but qualifies to run for president as a natural born American due to his American parents being in Canada (for business, IIRC) when he was born. (Legal experts point out this term has never been clearly defined but it tends to default to older British definitions/approaches).
You also have to be a resident of America for 14 years and be at least 35 years old.
 
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