The Absolute Theory of Everything .

[ANEWDAWN]

So a thought, but not reality

No, it is reality !

Although things don't look like as we see them .

 

[QuestioningMind]

What is empty space made of ?

Now bare in mind we've imagined away the quanta and the space is absolutely empty .


The space can't be imagined away !

Now wouldn't you say and agree that the space was made of no thing , in affect made of nothing ?

No, I would not. IF something called 'empty space' actually exists in reality - and it's NOT just something that exists in your or my imagination - then it IS SOMEthing... it's empty space. It's very existence makes it SOMETHING instead of NOTHING.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No, it is reality !

Although things don't look like as we see them .

I do agree that we humans don't see reality as it truly are with our physical eyes, but that does not make your theory become true I see us as spiritual beings who are trapped in physical body

 

[QuestioningMind]

Nothing is an ideal that says what exists can be removed to not exist.

For a human does not exist in any condition of nothing....we exist with everything.

Therefore when a human discusses nothing, they mean it, as a thought...to gain it.

Which implies destruction comes about and change comes about by the thought of nothing.

For as said for a thinking mind to say that it can shift mass in a want of human science, the mind first places a thought to own space, to a mind it is nothing.

Then within the nothing he would idealise the shifting of mass that would be a destruction action.

Human conscious awareness thought those thoughts whilst living inside of a gas massed body, that owned space, gas space. Mass as a gas plus radiation but an ability to move through the mass by the state of gas existence.

Which is a self bio owned status that does not belong to any other form of mass.

Radiation metal advised the seeking science mind that it came into the gas body from outside of it, so outside mass could invade the space of a gas....where his science ideas came from.

Consciousness therefore idealized space inside of a gas mass...which is not relative to space itself.

Nothing is an ideal that says what exists can be removed to not exist.

Which is exactly what I'm saying. It's a concept that only exists within people's imaginations and does not exist in reality.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Nothing is an ideal that says what exists can be removed to not exist.

Which is exactly what I'm saying. It's a concept that only exists within people's imaginations and does not exist in reality.

So your theory about everything is actually theory about nothing?

 

[QuestioningMind]

Well, it may be possible to remove it in reality but at this time that is not really the physics I'd like to discuss .

We can remove the air and light from the glass in reality but with our imagination we can imagine a force field around the glass that prevents wave energy entering the glass and also we can imagine the volume pre - big bang before CBMR even existed .


I'd say it was a little more than imagination as we are envisioning an empty pre-big bang space , nothing exists but the empty space .

And the EXISTENCE of the 'empty space' make that 'empty space' SOMETHING... not NOTHING.

By it's very definition NOTHING cannot exist in reality. It's a concept that ONLY exists in imagination, not in reality. Because if it DOES exist in reality its very existence AUTOMATICALLY makes it SOMETHING.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Just as the quanta were removed by imagination.

Thus 'nothing' is something that can ONLY exist in imagination... never in reality.

 

[ANEWDAWN]

Thus 'nothing' is something that can ONLY exist in imagination... never in reality.

Not true because in reality nothing existed before matter and still exists as you can't destroy or create nothing , meaning absolute oblivion infinite space .

 

[QuestioningMind]

So your theory about everything is actually theory about nothing?

I'm not proposing any theories about everything. I'm simply pointing out that the concept of 'nothing' existing is something that can only exist in one's imagination. The instant that 'nothing' exists in reality, it's very existence makes it SOMETHING... not NOTHING.

 

[ANEWDAWN]

And the EXISTENCE of the 'empty space' make that 'empty space' SOMETHING... not NOTHING.

By it's very definition NOTHING cannot exist in reality. It's a concept that ONLY exists in imagination, not in reality. Because if it DOES exist in reality its very existence AUTOMATICALLY makes it SOMETHING.

Not true as the math provided shows

0 / Rn

 

[Spirit of Light]

I'm not proposing any theories about everything. I'm simply pointing out that the concept of 'nothing' existing is something that can only exist in one's imagination. The instant that 'nothing' exists in reality, it's very existence makes it SOMETHING... not NOTHING.

Sorry my message was actually meant for @ANEWDAWN
I dont think your view is wrong in this @QuestioningMind

 

[QuestioningMind]

Not true because in reality nothing existed before matter and still exists as you can't destroy or create nothing , meaning absolute oblivion infinite space .

Wrong... because IF 'nothing' EXISTED, it's very EXISTENCE would make it SOMETHING. So clearly SOMETHING existed before matter as we currently know it existed.

 

[ANEWDAWN]

Wrong... because IF 'nothing' EXISTED, it's very EXISTENCE would make it SOMETHING. So clearly SOMETHING existed before matter as we currently know it existed.

If you'd took note of prior discussion in the thread

B1b) Something is matter

B2b) Something is a measurement

That something you are referring to is a measure Rn , an infinite ''volume'' of absolute oblivion space 0 / Rn


I.e A ''volume'' of nothing , no thing exists other than empty space .

Technically put , an extension of a single point , infinite in any direction .

 

[QuestioningMind]

Not true as the math provided shows

0 / Rn

ROFL... sorry, but no amount of your pseudo-math is going to change the reality that for something to EXIST in reality it MUST be SOMEthing... not NOTHING. If it's NOTHING then, by DEFINITION, it does NOT exist.

 

[QuestioningMind]

If you'd took note of prior discussion in the thread




That something you are referring to is a measure Rn , an infinite ''volume'' of absolute oblivion space 0 / Rn


I.e A ''volume'' of nothing , no thing exists other than empty space .

Technically put , an extension of a single point , infinite in any direction .

And the EXISTENCE of empty space is SOMETHING... it's the existence of EMPTY SPACE. In your analogy nothing BUT empty space exists... but that EMPTY SPACE does in fact EXIST. It is SOMETHING.

Just read what you wrote: no thing exists other than empty space. So the empty space DOES exist and it's existence makes it SOMETHING.

 

[ANEWDAWN]

And the EXISTENCE of empty space is SOMETHING... it's the existence of EMPTY SPACE. In your analogy nothing BUT empty space exists... but that EMPTY SPACE does in fact EXIST. It is SOMETHING.

Just read what you wrote: no thing exists other than empty space. So the empty space DOES exist and it's existence makes it SOMETHING.

Yes but the empty space is nothingness .

0 / Rn

 

[QuestioningMind]

Yes but the empty space is nothingness .

0 / Rn

Empty space is NOT nothingness... it is EMPTY SPACE. It may containing nothing BUT empty space... but that empty space EXISTS and is therefor SOMETHING not NOTHING.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Empty space is NOT nothingness... it is EMPTY SPACE. It may containing nothing BUT empty space... but that empty space EXISTS and is therefor SOMETHING not NOTHING.

Do you ever stop tap dancing?

 

[QuestioningMind]

Do you ever stop tap dancing?

Actually, I've never been much of a dancer... tap or otherwise.

So sorry that you can't seem to grasp the notion that if empty space EXISTS in reality then it is SOMETHING... something that we have defined as EMPTY SPACE. If empty space does NOT exist in reality then it is nothing more than a mental concept that ONLY exists in one's imagination. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Actually, I've never been much of a dancer... tap or otherwise.

So sorry that you can't seem to grasp the notion that if empty space EXISTS in reality then it is SOMETHING... something that we have defined as EMPTY SPACE. If empty space does NOT exist in reality then it is nothing more than a mental concept that ONLY exists in one's imagination. You can't have it both ways.

Sorry, that was aimed at the OP. Somehow I clicked on the wrong person to respond to.