The American love of guns?

[Dan From Smithville]

And example of guns being interesting....
On the TV show, The Old Man, a CIA operative
in Afghanistan arranged for a shipment of
M-21 rifles for US allies living there.
If one knew about the use & history of the M-21,
this shows great understanding of the people's
needs? Why not a bolt action sniper rifle?
The M-21 is an accurized scoped version of the
M-14, & is capable of full-auto. Thus it's a fine
sniper rifle out to 1,000 yards, but it's also
a squad weapon because of rapid fire capability.
This is ideally suited to people accustomed to
the AK-47

You make a good argument for that in a combat situation given the conditions.

I've used the .308 for deer hunting and it is a sufficient round for the job. Perhaps much more of one. Especially in hill country like the Ozarks where that sort of range potential isn't often needed.

 

[Revoltingest]

You make a good argument for that in a combat situation given the conditions.

I've used the .308 for deer hunting and it is a sufficient round for the job. Perhaps much more of one. Especially in hill country like the Ozarks where that sort of range potential isn't often needed.

IMO the 308 is good for shorter ranges too.
Not as powerful as 30-06 or 300 Wmag.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

IMO the 308 is good for shorter ranges too.

I agree. Just mentioning that longer range shots are less common in such conditions as I've hunted in. Though not completely missing either.

Not as powerful as 30-06 or 300 Wmag.

I was thinking of the 30-06. I've shot them, but not hunted with them.

I worked the other side of the line once in a controlled hunt at a state park. I noticed the variety of choices in rifle and cartridge covered the spectrum. Afterwards, while hiking around the park, I found cartridge casings for .223, 243, 30-30, 30-06, 300 magnum, and 350 magnum. Even a .444 Marlin. There were probably others. I kept a little collection for a while, but since got rid of it. Some people apparently like to take any guess work out of the hunting and sometimes not leave much behind depending on the size of the deer.

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree. Just mentioning that longer range shots are less common in such conditions as I've hunted in. Though not completely missing either.

I was thinking of the 30-06. I've shot them, but not hunted with them.

I worked the other side of the line once in a controlled hunt at a state park. I noticed the variety of choices in rifle and cartridge covered the spectrum. Afterwards, while hiking around the park, I found cartridge casings for .223, 243, 30-30, 30-06, 300 magnum, and 350 magnum. Even a .444 Marlin. There were probably others. I kept a little collection for a while, but since got rid of it. Some people apparently like to take any guess work out of the hunting and sometimes not leave much behind depending on the size of the deer.

I'm deadly only to targets.
Very sissy, eh.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm deadly only to targets.
Very sissy, eh.

That constitutes most of the last 30 years. If I'm ever attacked by targets, I'm ready. I never hunted for trophies. Just sport and food.

 

[Revoltingest]

That constitutes most of the last 30 years. If I'm ever attacked by targets, I'm ready. I never hunted for trophies. Just sport and food.

I quit target shooting when it became a burden.
I liked iron sights, but me eyes didn't cooperate
as they aged.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I'm deadly only to targets.
Very sissy, eh.

Actually, if manly/sissy were the reason someone owns guns, I'd be more concerned.

I think from all I've heard, you practice a much more knowledgeable and rational position on gun use that others should consider for themselves.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I quit target shooting when it became a burden.
I liked iron sights, but me eyes didn't cooperate
as they aged.

You too. Interesting. I have used a scope, but rarely.

My favorite to shoot has always been and remains the venerable .22. Cheap. Easy to find. Comes in a variety of firearms. I had a Ruger that I liked very much. I have an old Browning leaver action that I inherited from my father that I like for sentimental reasons. It shoots fairly well too.

 

[Revoltingest]

Actually, if manly/sissy were the reason someone owns guns, I'd be more concerned.

I think from all I've heard, you practice a much more knowledgeable and rational position on gun use that others should consider for themselves.

I got started on my high school rifle team.
Most of us were nerds & girls.
It was just fun to compete.
Good background in safety it was too.

 

[Shaul]

I got started on my high school rifle team.
Most of us were nerds & girls.
It was just fun to compete.
Good background in safety it was too.

I presume you meant "nerds or girls" or perhaps "nerds and/or girls". Unless you are coming out as a girl. No judgments.

 

[an anarchist]

I got started on my high school rifle team.
Most of us were nerds & girls.
It was just fun to compete.
Good background in safety it was too.

Nowadays, the youngins end up with guns cause they are “gangsters”. That means no gun safety course for them.

I feel that if every citizen was armed and trained, we’d be in a better spot. Emphasis on training. We should be a society of lions, not sheep. Not because it is preferable, but rather, it is necessary.

 

[Revoltingest]

I presume you meant "nerds or girls" or perhaps "nerds and/or girls". Unless you are coming out as a girl. No judgments.

The boys were nerds.
The girls weren't.

I'd wondered who'd question that phrasing.
BTW, I'm not a girl. Just not very manly.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I got started on my high school rifle team.
Most of us were nerds & girls.
It was just fun to compete.
Good background in safety it was too.

I grew up interested through my parents. Never thought about it making me manly. Just my father's hobby stimulating my own interest. He liked the history of firearms too.

Other than the occasional trips to a range, I haven't spent the same sort of time with it that I did years and years ago.

I like skeet shooting. It is challenging and fun. Haven't done that in a long time either.

And thinking about it, our exchange has provided a small sample of more recent history of gun interest in the US.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

The boys were nerds.
The girls weren't.

I'd wondered who'd question that phrasing.
BTW, I'm not a girl. Just not very manly.

I can't say with great certainty, but I've never suspected any covert gender options from you, so I just rearranged the meaning in my own mind and it seems to have matched your intent. Fuzzy interpretation I suppose.

 

[Revoltingest]

I can't say with great certainty, but I've never suspected any covert gender options from you, so I just rearranged the meaning in my own mind and it seems to have matched your intent. Fuzzy interpretation I suppose.

Ordinary cis-male here.
Sub-standard even.
Never had any question about it.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Ordinary cis-male here.
Sub-standard even.
Never had any question about it.

It wouldn't matter to me anyway. But thanks for the clarification.

Standards are in the eye of the beholder. I'll leave it to beholders to worry about what that means to them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If one knew about the use & history of the M-21,
this shows great understanding of the people's
needs.
Why not a bolt action sniper rifle?
The M-21 is an accurized scoped version of the
M-14, & is capable of full-auto. Thus it's a fine
sniper rifle out to 1,000 yards, but it's also
a squad weapon because of rapid fire capability.
This is ideally suited to increasing the deadliness
of people accustomed to the AK-47. (Keep it clean.)

Yeah, I grew up in the country and learned how to handle guns long before I could drive but I don't know all that stuff.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, I grew up in the country and learned how to handle guns long before I could drive but I don't know all that stuff.

Well, some of us are geekier about guns.
Twas a narrow focus I had in high school.
(It made me really popular!)