The Arabs And Muslims Must Acknowledge Their Direct Responsibility For The Terror Sweeping The World

[David1967]

I am not anti-semitic , i post historic evidence how Hitler blame Jews for hurting Germany economy and economy of world .

You are correct in that aspect my friend. Hitler did blame the Jews for all Germanys problems as well as their loss in WW1. He was not alone in that sentiment ,many in Germany felt the same way even though it was not true. Hitler actually took command of a movement that was already growing in Germany. I recommend that you read the book by William Shirer, "The Rise and Fall of the third Reich" to get a complete history of those events. It was truly a terrible time.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm Jewish by genealogy, just not by religion.

So are a bunch of other Jew-haters. There's self-haters in all groups. That doesn't make you exempt from being called out on your crap.

 

[FearGod]

think about it for a second; how can you blame an entire race for doing something, without actually observing every single member of that race. it is a sweeping generalisation that ascribes guilt based on a collective identity and not indivduals actions.

how could anyone make that sort of a claim and say it is true?

The OP.

 

[Laika]

The OP.

 

[Godobeyer]

Just so you know, this is the sentiment that Adolf Hitler expressed in his testament before his sucicide. it was Hitlers belief that "International Jewry" were engaged in a conspiracy against Germany in "starting" world war II and that was his justification for perptrating the Holocaust against the jewish "race" as the Nazis so defined it.

"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted the war in 1939. It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish descent or worked for Jewish interests. I have made too many offers for the control and limitation of armaments, which posterity will not for all time be able to disregard for the responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be laid on me. I have further never wished that after the first fatal world war a second against England, or even against America, should break out. Centuries will pass away, but out of the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred against those finally responsible whom we have to thank for everything, international Jewry and its helpers, will grow." (A. Hitler, Testament)

On past experience Godobeyer, this doesn't sound like you. So I'd be greatful for some clarification on what you meant and how you reached this conclusion. The internet is a bad place to research some topics because it relies on second hand information; it gives alot of people the chance to falsify the historical record because they don't have to provide first hand evidence. this happens with alot of subjects that certian groups would rather not want us to know about and they can just lie about it. e.g. the holocaust.

Just curious If Hilter was right in his accusation against Jews (rich Jews) that hurting the economy of Germany and world economy ?

so why ALL Germans agree with his statement and start slaying ALL Jews ?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

The Jewish Declaration of War
on Nazi Germany ,The Economic Boycott of 1933
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html


ah , the Jews must acknowledge their direct responsibility of WW2

So you're saying the Jews brought the war as well as Nazi hatred of Jews upon themselves? Wow. Holy twatwaffles. That's got to be anti-semitism right there.

 

[Father Heathen]

Don't know have you examined the evidence, otherwise you wouldn't ask such obvious questions.

I have, and concluded that no vast, impossibly elaborate and convoluted conspiracies have taken place.

 

[Godobeyer]

You are correct in that aspect my friend. Hitler did blame the Jews for all Germanys problems as well as their loss in WW1. He was not alone in that sentiment ,many in Germany felt the same way even though it was not true. Hitler actually took command of a movement that was already growing in Germany. I recommend that you read the book by William Shirer, "The Rise and Fall of the third Reich" to get a complete history of those events. It was truly a terrible time.

I agree that he was wrong by generalizing by blaming all race , so he eliminate all of them .

that's my point in my last reply , did Hitler was right about his blame on Jews whom hurting Germany , or it's just accusation to Jews ?

 

[Godobeyer]

So you're saying the Jews brought the war as well as Nazi hatred of Jews upon themselves? Wow. Holy twatwaffles. That's got to be anti-semitism right there.

what up with anti-semitic in this thread !!!

So any historic evidence or event about Jews or said that Hitler blame them for hurting German economy that's anti-semitic ?

 

[Laika]

Just curious If Hilter was right in his accusation against Jews (rich Jews) that hurting the economy of Germany and world economy ?

so why ALL Germans agree with his statement and start slaying ALL Jews ?

Certian groups of people have made cliams that there are a disproprotionate number of jews working in Finance. This is somewhat a legacy of the fact that Christians were prohibited from engaging in usery (handling money) in the middle ages and so got the jews to do it for them. its a sterotype that has persisted through the centuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933

According to the wikipedia article, jewish organisations around the world campigned for a boycott of german goods, particualry in the United States and in the United Kingdom. However, this was in response to the Anti-Semitism of the Nazi Party, who in turn responded by boycotting all jewish shops within Germany. The jewish community were responding to what the Nazis were doing. i.e. The Jews didn't start it, they were trying to defend themselves with the means they had avaliable.

The Majority of germans didn't "slay all jews". This is actually another point where generalising "all germans" or even "all nazis" killed the jews. Only a limited number of people in the Nazi government were aware of and actively participated in the holocaust and it was kept secret from the public. this was because they expected people to fight back if they knew what they were doing. Many germans blamed "jews" simpy because it was convienent and wanted to force them out of the country, but didn't think about wiping them out as a race. The Nazis lied to the german people and to the jews and told them they were being "evacuted" to the East in Poland or Russia, but this was only so they didn't know what was about to happen to them and that they were about to be all killed. some germans resisted the nazis, others helped the jews escape. So again, it is not a case of "all" people doing the same thing.

 

[Godobeyer]

yeah, I was going to write how wrong it was to blame all Islam or Muslims before you brought this up.

In 1933, the estimated number of Jews in the world was about 15.3 million people. Today the Islamic religion has 1.6 billion people. So clearly, in either case, it's a gross generalisation which takes no account of the actions of individuals.

So why does it matter that a handful of jews may have boycotted german goods, or if a handful of muslims may have engaged in terrorist attacks? Do you think they are representative for all the other people who didn't do those things?

that's why i am upset about this thread , it's blame all Muslims and Arabs

I could say Germany (Nazi) "revenge" for Jews (businessmen) whom hurting Germany economy was wrong and racist

exactly as blame whom Muslims and Arabs by being responsible for terrorism in this thread .

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

that's why i am upset about this thread , it's blame all Muslims and Arabs

I could say Germany (Nazi) "revenge" for Jews (businessmen) whom hurting Germany economy was wrong and racist

exactly as blame whom Muslims and Arabs by being responsible for terrorism in this thread .

Did you actually read the article in the OP? It's about what an Iraqi Arab journalist wrote. It's not saying what you think it's saying. It's saying that Arab Muslim culture has issues that they need to fix.

 

[JRMcC]

I think it is noteworthy whenever any Muslim acknowledges Muslim responsibility for world-wide terror.

I'm an American. Am I responsible for American war crimes?

 

[wizanda]

So are a bunch of other Jew-haters. There's self-haters in all groups. That doesn't make you exempt from being called out on your crap.

You're just blatantly wrong, I've tried numerous times to converse nicely; might not like Rabbinic literature as it is bigoted, racist, and evil... Yet doesn't make me hate anyone.

 

[Godobeyer]

Did you actually read the article in the OP? It's about what an Iraqi Arab journalist wrote. It's not saying what you think it's saying. It's saying that Arab Muslim culture has issues that they need to fix.

Title of thread is what concern me too .

I do agree some Muslim countries had problems , but what was the factures/ROOTs of these problems

I list them ,check my first post

 

[Godobeyer]

I'm an American. Am I responsible for American war crimes?

well said ,

so OP said : I am Muslim i am responsible for terrorism in world !!

 

[Flankerl]

What a magical thread but it needs more Nazi Propaganda.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Title of thread is what concern me too .

I do agree some Muslim countries had problems , but what was the factures/ROOTs of these problems

I list them ,check my first post

Yeah, it's always everyone else's fault but yourself. Typical. Your mentality is a symptom of what that journalist is pointing out.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm an American. Am I responsible for American war crimes?

To an extent, we are responsible for the illegal things the government does because we're too apathetic to actually fix the government and make it work for us. We are joyfully enslaved.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm an American. Am I responsible for American war crimes?

No, but as an American you should be aware of such abuses, understand why they're unethical, and not support or excuse those who are responsible.