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The Battle of Thermopylae

TTCUSM

Member
Namaste Everyone,

As you may know, the Battle of Thermopylae was fought between the Persian Empire and Greek city-states. Many Westerners consider this to be an important event in Western history, where Greek warriors fought off a foreign invasion.

However, the religion of Iran at this time in world history was Zoroastrianism, a monotheistic faith that has more in common with Christianity than the ancient Greek religion. Can anyone explain this?
 

CaptainBritain

Active Member
IIRC the persian empire or Acheamedic empire as its known for that period occupied an area slightly larger than the Roman Empire did at its full extent, I expect a great many religions were practiced.

I think its an A led to B moment, the knowledge and philosophy that came out of Greece resonated far beyond the weight of its tiny population, also had the Greeks failed I do not see quite where the persians would have stopped expanding within reason, the Greeks were the regional military masters for quite some time along with macedonia until the Romans came of age.

However I do not think bad of the Persians, for at that time they were doing things and reaching peaks no other society had done up to that point in there own right.

I think its more seen as a triumph of reason over madness, Xerxes and his daddy Darius were barbaric leaders to say the least, though at the same time certain Greek societies left a lot to be desired, eg in Sparta where hunting members of the helot class was seen as a valid use of time, the spartans made great soldiers but their ideas about who could and should be called a spartan would lead to there decline, however its worth of note that even Alexander the Great thought it an unworthy reward for the risks going to war with them, not until the Romans arrived were they beat though they did lose certain battles in thier history, by the time Rome arrived only as little as 3000 spartan men were classed as citizens, ie no army big enough to fight Rome and I bet the helot classes welcomed Rome with open arms, Sparta under the Romans became a tourist spot they viewed spartans as a military and society version of how we might see the Amish, the spartans were also recruited by Rome and fought well in Dacia for them.

In Athens a flip side emerged though, although for long lengths of time weak compared to Sparta, the nuts a bolts that emerged from that city influence greatly whats best about today, having said that all the man boy love going on was sick.
Democracy, multiple fields of philosophy and the births of science as we would come to know it and reason, not that they were alone, the also incorparated ideas from elsewhere.


Think its just an if A went differently B might not have happened.

Plus its a tale of sacrifice for the greater good.
 
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Acim

Revelation all the time
Westerners are more euro-centric than middle-east-centric.

If Niger kicked the crap out of Hitler in WWII, I sometimes think Westerners would have more sympathy for that German fellow.
 

Eurydice

New Member
Namaste Everyone,

However, the religion of Iran at this time in world history was Zoroastrianism, a monotheistic faith that has more in common with Christianity than the ancient Greek religion. Can anyone explain this?

Hi TTCUSM. :)

I'm puzzled by your question, what exactly do you mean by it?

The Persians didn't actually lose the battle of Thermopylae. ;) They sneaked their way around the Greek force and killed most of the Spartans and Thebans who were holding the pass. Granted, the Greeks and particularly the Spartans made a big deal out of it, but technically, they lost that one and the Greeks were actually in dire straits until the Battle of Salamis.

The Persians ultimately lost because they overextended themselves - when they lost their naval fleet at the Battle of Salamis Xerxes was afraid for his supply lines, which had to go all the way from the Near East into Greece through a bridge of ships he built - if the Greeks had sailed over to the bridge and cut him off from the Near East, he and his army would have been screwed.
 
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gnomon

Well-Known Member
Namaste Everyone,

As you may know, the Battle of Thermopylae was fought between the Persian Empire and Greek city-states. Many Westerners consider this to be an important event in Western history, where Greek warriors fought off a foreign invasion.

However, the religion of Iran at this time in world history was Zoroastrianism, a monotheistic faith that has more in common with Christianity than the ancient Greek religion. Can anyone explain this?

Explain what again?
 
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