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The best secret in this world
- Thread starter Starlight
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe what you will find is that love is not always approval and is often correction.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Maybe it will get you over the hump, so to speak.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe having children gives me a clue. There is an investment in creating life.
Audie
Veteran Member
A clue to what?
Messianic Israelite
Active Member
Hi Starlight. Good evening. Have you never read scriptures like Matthew 13:41-43? Yahweh is an Elohim of love (1 John 4:8), but his love will not abide with those who continually choose to violate his commandments. If you have a child, you are inclined to love that child no matter what. However, if that child continually opposed what you say or do, your love to that child will be diminished. That's why some parents disown their children isn't it?
Now I'll let you in on a little secret that I've discovered in the Bible. They are those who hate Yahweh. Some mask over that hate by saying they don't believe in Yahweh (don't believe He exists), others claim to love Yahweh but don't keep His commandments, they also hate Yahweh. It's written in full view in the Ten Commandments. You can read this in Exodus 20:5. Yahweh knows all, He knows the secrets of the heart (Psalm 44:21) and all will be brought in to the open at the Judgment Seat.
Regarding the line in Quran "and not let the deceptions deceive you regarding your Lord", Ahlulbayt (a) say the deceptions means people see God as too compassionate as to punish them and hence don't fear him.
BrightShadow
Active Member
God can be loving, compassionate and merciful but he is also a judge, he can dishonor whomever he chooses and he is creator of harmful things (as well as good things of course). IMO
So, better not to get carried away by thinking God will always love you no matter what. Even though, IMO God did create everyone (including the atheists) - but atheists are the ones who rejected God - so why would God be required to be loving to them? It is not necessary! IMO
However, I believe God has the prerogative to forgive whomever he chooses!
My understanding is - we are rejects from God's immediate kingdom. We already failed God somehow. Not Adam and eve fruit story! I believe we all did something wrong. Depending on what we did and how severe it was - we are predestined by God into where we are born. Some born into rich family, some born in poor, some born into a decent family of believers and some to atheist parents. When we are born - we come with our baggage (our original sin). This is why Jesus said - "why do you call me good?" [Luke 18:19] [Mark 10:18]. IMO
Jesus claimed to know Abraham, Moses. Right? How did he know them? He isn't god in my opinion. I believe - Jesus knew them because we were all there in God's kingdom in our soul form and we all could have met each then! In our physical body - we don't remember it. Even in our physical body - there is a partition in our brain. A part we can access (our memory here on earth) and another part that takes care of the functions of our body. For example - our brain is making sure all the organs are working within parameters etc. but we don't directly do brain's work.
I believe we are sent here to prove that we are still worthy to be taken back into God's immediate kingdom. IMO. That is why we are sent here in our physical body and not in our soul form. Physical body can be manipulated, for example memory can be erased to give us a new start. Human body can be susceptible to outside influence (such as an entity). Devil or his counterparts could posses it and deliver its influence without us even realizing it. IMO
So, while on earth - the main thing is asked of us is to believe in God's absolute authority over all things (this world and spiritual world). In other words we are to believe in one God concept! IMO. We must not believe in any human god or animal god or multiple gods. IMO
God will be loving to those who maintain one God concept and lead a righteous life and believe there will be a judgment day someday. IMO Judgment day will happen once all souls receive their chance to visit this world. IMO
Those of us who believe in God - will remember to search for God's immediate kingdom and those of us who don't - will fade away into nothingness! IMO
So, whether God loves all or not - he may allow atheists to fade away into nothingness. IMO
So, atheists (in my opinion) shouldn't take a chance!
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
IMO, IMO, IMO, IMO, in total 7 IMO's in your post, and one "in my opinion".I believe we are sent here to prove that we are still worthy to be taken back into God's immediate kingdom. IMO. That is why we are sent here in our physical body and not in our soul form. Physical body can be manipulated, for example memory can be erased to give us a new start. Human body can be susceptible to outside influence (such as an entity). Devil or his counterparts could posses it and deliver its influence without us even realizing it. IMO
So, while on earth - the main thing is asked of us is to believe in God's absolute authority over all things (this world and spiritual world). In other words we are to believe in one God concept! IMO. We must not believe in any human god or animal god or multiple gods. IMO
God will be loving to those who maintain one God concept and lead a righteous life and believe there will be a judgment day someday. IMO Judgment day will happen once all souls receive their chance to visit this world. IMO
Those of us who believe in God - will remember to search for God's immediate kingdom and those of us who don't - will fade away into nothingness! IMO
So, whether God loves all or not - he may allow atheists to fade away into nothingness. IMO
So, atheists (in my opinion) shouldn't take a chance!
But others differ. Atheists have made their move.
Everything morphs into other things in time, including the human body, irrespective of whether the person was a theist or an atheist. Nothing fades into nothingness (Law of conservation of Energy). What things are made of is eternal, IMO (since it is a non-debate forum).