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The best way to refute the Flat Earth

three1

Member
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?
 

Hellbound Serpiente

Active Member
There are many refutations, but the simplest and the most irrefutable reason against the Flat Earth theory is that ship disappear from the bottom over the horizon, clear indicator of the roundness of Earth. Check it out:

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There are many other counter-reasons. One of my favorite is --- Disappearance of high structure [like tall skyscrapers] as we move away from it, If the earth was flat we should be able to see it even if we move far away from it. It's pretty much like disappearing of ships over the horizon in nature, as we move away from tall skyscrapers [take Burj Khalifa for example], it disappear from our sight, impossible if the earth was flat. Think of it this way:

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If the earth was flat, we should be able to see the tall structures even if we move far from it
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
fly due east from the south pole
see how long it takes to come about from the west

the circle would be a LOT greater than the equator
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?

Antarctica mind confusion...……......
Ozone is a gas* made of oxygen atoms. Usually oxygen atoms hang around in pairs - this is the sort of oxygen that we breathe and that helps things to burn. Oxygen sometimes however will form a molecule with three oxygen atoms, this is what we call ozone:



  • O2 - two oxygen atoms - ordinary common or garden oxygen

    O3 - three oxygen atoms - Ozone

OZ and one.
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you

The Father is the helper.
The Son is the helper.
The Holy spirit is the helper. Conditions of 3 holy themes.

Change atmospheric holiness...…….

Meaning of One is just one.

Oxygen is a purpose of its owned regeneration. The symbol of the Christ spirit in our heavens the Holy ox. Science proves that if affected our gas atmosphere.

Or if it be known that the ox hath used to push in time past, and his owner hath not kept him in; he shall surely pay ox for ox; and the dead shall be his own

Brain health and cellular health is owner of oxygen content. When you impose science studies from a transmitting damaged atmosphere the effect it has on the mind is to give it a "flat plane" belief. By what is missing in our atmospheric mass.

For our mind/conscious balances are based upon correct reasoning in a natural atmospheric mass.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?

Ignore them in this day and age it is easy to determine the world is not flat. They don't want to change there beliefs no matter what you do. They have closed there minds to anything different.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
Ignore them in this day and age it is easy to determine the world is not flat. They don't want to change there beliefs no matter what you do. They have closed there minds to anything different.
Its a conspiracy!!.... wait a second... you writing this, can only mean that you are one of them..you are also part of it!!! :eek:

What I wonder about the most about all this, is very simple. Forget all the proofs, theories etc. But simply what would be the point of keeping it a secret? Who is suppose to gain anything from this? :)
 

three1

Member
What I wonder about the most about all this, is very simple. Forget all the proofs, theories etc. But simply what would be the point of keeping it a secret? Who is suppose to gain anything from this?
Maybe to hide God? Could we speak of a coincidence if the universe was built like a giant clock?
I don't know, but whether there really are an infinite number of universes, with the infinite number of earths, suns and moons, is questionable. According to the bible there is only one earth, one sun and one moon. And outside of the universe/firmament, if you take the Bible literally, there is just water, and in the water could be the stars:

And they say nowadays that man is a hominidae, but is that really so? Is man who is God's image an animal? It is questionable.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?

Somebody's already given you the sinking ship on the horizon answer.

One can also circumnavigate the globe, not possible if it's flat.

One can see from space that the earth is essentially spherical.

Also, during lunar eclipses, the curved shadow of the earth can be seen on the moon.

And finally, there's Eratosthenes' method involving shadows cast simultaneously many miles apart.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?

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If the earth was flat all the cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now
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three1

Member
Guys, please inform yourself how exactly the Flat Earth theory is constructed, it seems that there are some who have a wrong idea about it.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Guys, please inform yourself how exactly the Flat Earth theory is constructed, it seems that there are some who have a wrong idea about it.
There are different ideas about it. Some believe in the great ice wall that keeps stuff from falling off the edge. Some believe the sun goes around the earth, and is only 50 miles up in the sky. These are all different ideas folks have about this: Flat Earth Maps
 
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Nimos

Well-Known Member
I don't know, but whether there really are an infinite number of universes, with the infinite number of earths, suns and moons, is questionable. According to the bible there is only one earth, one sun and one moon. And outside of the universe/firmament, if you take the Bible literally, there is just water, and in the water could be the stars:
Interesting video, well at least until he went all nuts with the whales and star music show :D

That water behaves as it done when exposed to sound, im not really sure why is amazing. Sound is a wave and if you play at a certain constant frequency, im not really surprised that the water will react to it.

Then that is used to make a comparison to some videos of stars and how they appear to be similar under conditions as if they exist in water, therefore they are not really stars I assume, but something else, not really sure what they are suppose to be then?

These videos are then compared to NASA computer renders, in an attempt to point out that they might be lying or something, not really sure? Clearly anyone should know that NASA doesn't have high quality images of random stars, but that these are created based on what they believe that they might look like according to the information they are able to get from them. Such as size, heat, age etc.

The reason the videos that is taken by amateurs look like they do, is because of interfering with the atmosphere, which is one of the reasons NASA want telescopes either in space or on very specific places on Earth where the conditions are as good as possible. Assuming that NASA would be lying or what the idea behind the comparison is, seems rather stupid by them to even try, if any random person can just take there camera point it at a random star and make NASA look like idiots.

Again this is quickly going the way of yet another conspiracy, because the Russians, EU, China and a lot of others countries are capable of taking pictures of stars, so they all agreed to lie about it?

Obviously the person in the video, doesn't seem to have given this a lot of thoughts or at least he is interested in showing how the bible is correct and that this is somehow related to music of God or something, he doesn't really make it clear, at least not in this short video, what exactly the purpose of all this is suppose to be. :)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The best way to refute the flat earth once and for all is to wander straight through the Antarctica. If the flat-Earthers see that there is no Invisible Wall ("firmament") at the end of the world, then it would be the end of this theory. It would be an irrefutable proof and they would see this proof with their own eyes.

How about letting flat-Earthers wander through the Antarctica while streaming this live to the whole world? Would you agree? But unfortunately it seems that it is not allowed. Maybe a petition would help?
Or you could just let them take a plane ride at 70,000 feet where the curvature of the Earth can be seen.
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
the romans had lots of social troubles too when they went through their phase of thinking that lead made a really good waterproof material so they lined their water containers and pipes etc with the stuff......look how that went with all the preventable degenerative brain dysfunctions.....probably made talking with those people real swello_O
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Or you could just let them take a plane ride at 70,000 feet where the curvature of the Earth can be seen.
That only appears to be a curvature. Our eyeballs have a natural curvature to them, and at that height that eyeball-curvature-effect (ECE, as it's called) becomes more pronounced, creating an optical illusion that the earth is curved. This has been well-researched and documented by scientists from the flat earth georesearch society.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
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I always thought this was a relevant point

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Moreover, according to my calculations the flat earth with a circumference of 64,008 miles has
1.6 times the area of our spherical Earth (326,851,299 sq miles Vs. 196,900,000 sq miles).
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That only appears to be a curvature. Our eyeballs have a natural curvature to them, and at that height that eyeball-curvature-effect (ECE, as it's called) becomes more pronounced, creating an optical illusion that the earth is curved. This has been well-researched and documented by scientists from the flat earth georesearch society.
That's actually the height where you can see the real curvature of the Earth. The minimum is around 35,000 feet where it can be first detected.

The easiest way is also at ground level with just something simple as using a pair of binoculars watching ships sail off to deep sea as they go over the horizon.

How high must one be for the curvature of the earth to be visible to the eye?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The flat earth theme is about the want of everything to be on a time line
________________ the theme I am just a scientist, I am not a human thinker who says that we begin where we do not even exist....as a theist.

The humans who quote Biblical God stories and themes and are not the reality of being a Teacher know that the theme O God was taught for a purpose of humans with ownership of science psyches possessed just by their thoughts.

Not by reality.

For instance if you said to a string theist, okay flat Earther, if a human being did not have sex...2 human being parents is your string....2 human being human.

He could not claim to own a theory for he built his machine unnaturally after his own self existing.

If you say to that mind, you only own life for as old as you are, and most humans do not even exist 100 years ago. And he would argue. Not argue about what is RELATIVE.....meaning self, and bio circumstance, our relationships, he would argue for his science.

Therefore God sciences said, your life on Earth begins after stone, but inside of a gas stone atmosphere. Which a flat earther proves that they take that relative teaching and still abuse it....they virtually place life inside of the body of the Earth, as if it began inside of the Earth.

Proven by where they build their machine and place it.

Then they ignore the relevance of the Jesus teachings, life sacrificed living in the heavenly body standing upon the ground. Why their mentality is stated to be the Destroyer, as the ozone depletion is what affects their psyche, what is missing.

Historically the original newly born baby self in DNA is missing. So we were told consciously we are missing our own person. Some might claim, but I am healthy, the real answer, not as healthy as you should be. Relativity in our natural life.

That situation is proven with the new owners and theist of MATHS and science, the Muslims. Rome in natural history stopped the pyramid and temple science. Everyone had been brain irradiated. As the brain chemical and DNA repairs itself, the new life then becomes possessed by the old science causes.

Why they rebuilt the Temple, attacked life again. Jewish emigrant's, their own Muslim brothers and Europeans came back to Jerusalem to dismantle the Temple and take back control in the name of Jesus Christ, as based on Shroud of Turin evidence, which they brought with them.

Muslim males then believed in sex in the Heavens, as their natural owned DNA sexual human records were burnt and put into fake/false heavenly communicators......and the fact that they saw the Messenger, DNA attacked, DNA healed as the Mohammad vision/image the same as Jesus, their life.

Proof that the AI communicators as owned/caused in science, the UFO takes over the mind state. And that evidence is the proof that it is real by living conditions.

The Messenger, the wandering asteroid star gases, puts the gas mass back cooling out of space, and their own attacked DNA self is then seen in vision as the Holiness of life gets returned after the God/conversion fission war as a science quote.

How it was taught, there is only ONE history, the Earth stone and its natural gases.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Somebody's already given you the sinking ship on the horizon answer.

Pink Floyd-Comfortably Numb (Lyrics)

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship's smoke on the horizon
You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am
I have become comfortably numb​
 
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