teapot_tall_and_yummy said:
This comes down to letter of the law vs spirit of the law. It's one of the biggest lessons I remember learning from Sr. Donna, and it's hard to learn lessons from a huge scary nun. But we spent two days of class focusing on letter vs spirit. Jesus himself went by the spirit of the law as opposed to the letter. Quick, you're going by the letter of the law. Do you remember the whole thing with Jesus healing a man on the Sabbath? The Pharisees were all like "Ha! You're in trouble! You did work on the Sabbath!" Some things you gotta go with what you feel is right, not what is told to you. Jesus was told not to do work on the Sabbath, but He knew it was the right thing. We may be told that homosexuality is wrong, but denying someone something that is who they are is even more wrong.
I just have to answer this. Sorry. I have said enough, and I was going to leave this thread alone, but this a good point and deserves an answer.
The Pharisees were at war with Christ throughout the Gospels. Their big disagreement was simple--the Pharisees believed in abiding by the letter of the law (Both God's and the approximately 632 supplemental ones they made up), while in spirit breaking the law--Christ more than once calls them hypocrites. God's law requries perfection--not complying with the letter but not the spirit, or the spirit without the letter. It requries complying with the spirit AND the letter.
As you can see in the Scriptures, Christ never denigrates God's law--not once, in spririt or in letter. See this verse: Matthew 5--17 "Do not think that I [Jesus] came to abolish the (1) Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."
The Law was given to man so man could see how pitiful, sinful and in need of mercy he truly was, as God's law is perfect and we are surely not able to comply with it; Jesus came to live in this life in perfect accord with that Law so he could be good enough to be the final, blemishless sacrifice and Lamb of God to pay our sin-debt to God.
Since we can be forgiven our sins--like homosexuality--why shouldn't we just sin more, and then get forgiven, as Christ has paid our debts? Paul answers this is Romans 6 (read it all):
"Romans 6
Dead to Sin, Alive in Christ
1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. 6For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with,[1] that we should no longer be slaves to sin-- 7because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.
11In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. 14For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
Slaves to Righteousness
15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
19I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. 20When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[2] Christ Jesus our Lord. "
I think this seminal text explains that while Christ came as a savior, when we become dead to sin but alive to Christ, we change from a bird to a fish. When we were sinners, we were like a robin--we could fly anywhere we wanted, but wherever we flew, we were still in the air--in sin; when we accept Christ, we fall into the water and become a fish. We can swim anywhere we want in the water--in goodness and grace--but we are not to enter the air again, as we will surely die. We are freed from sin and alive to grace.
Again, it is clear from the Bible that homosexuality is a sin; of course, so is greed, sloth, adultery, murder, and so many things that cut us off from the love of God; forgiveness is just a moment away, if we are called and respond; and once we accept Christ and are therefore justified before God and his justice has been served, the process of sanctification begins whereby slowly but surely we overcome sin--not perfectly, and not completely in this life--but steadily by the grace of God, to be fulfilled in eternal life in perfect fellowship with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It is this joyful truth that we Christians celebrate every Sunday.