The Bible Was Right. The Earth Is Flat.

[ThirtyThree]

This word means a stand or support as in 2 Sam. 15:24.
Can you quote a verse where this root word is used in reference to a mountain?

It seems to mean "molten" more than it means "mountain". A "molten support", specifically. We can all agree the Earth is molten within, right?
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4690.htm

This word specifically means something circular having no inherent relation to an arch or vault of the sky. It shares a root word with the Hebrew word for "compass" (Isa. 44:13) an instrument which draws circles and is likewise unrelated to the arch or vault of the sky.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2329.htm

It really does mean "vault" or "horizon".

Job 22:14 - (regarding the walking of the circuit of heaven)

 

[Tumah]

Tell me where the "pillars" are placed to "support" a spherical Earth.

Are they perhaps placed somewhere near a ... "metaphore" ... ? Lol. This is fun.

I have no idea. I'm not getting involved in Christian exegesis. I'm just pointing out translation errors.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Lol. Nope, Precious Heart. I am not a JW.

Did you know Jesus spent a majority of His time belittling people? You do not know that.

Did you know, precious heart, that Jesus was "PERFECT" in every way, but you're not? You're no better than anyone else in this forum, what gives you the right to belittle anyone? You're "SELF" righteousness? You're a JW, and I feel you, I wouldn't admit it either!!

 

[freethinker44]

While I do not believe in most things like the above, just as I do not believe there are fossilized dinosaur footprints along with human ones (those are proven to be hoaxes), images like this are interesting. These are the things that make one go "hmm" about the ancient world.

That's not a hoax. It's not a general purpose computer like we have today, but it's still a computer. It just does one specific thing.

 

[buddhist]

I personally lean towards the belief that the Earth is relatively flat. The Buddhist scriptures also seem to speak of a flat earth. If I'm not mistaken, most ancient religions taught of a flat earth, and people have believed in a flat earth for millenia except for the last couple hundred years. I doubt anyone here have actually seen the shape of the Earth from a high enough vantage point to know for themselves either way, myself included.

If the Earth was truly a sphere, and spinning around its axis, spinning around the sun, and spinning around the galaxy, the positions of the stars should show huge variations on a daily basis, but they don't.

As I have stated, I have not had the opportunity to verify it for myself either way. Whether or not the Earth is flat or a sphere or a pyramid does not change my daily existence, or the fact that there is suffering on the Earth which is my primary focus.

 

[Tumah]

It seems to mean "molten" more than it means "mountain". A "molten support", specifically. We can all agree the Earth is molten within, right?
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/4690.htm

Personally, I think you're fishing. In the verse at 2 Sam. 15:24 the word is used in the context of setting up (or putting down in English) the Ark of the covenant. In that context the related root "pour-able" doesn't seem to be relevant as the ark was not molten. Additionally, the verse at Job 9:6 doesn't use this word at all, but the root word that means "stand" or "pillar".

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2329.htm

It really does mean "vault" or "horizon".

Job 22:14 - (regarding the walking of the circuit of heaven)

The circle in context is referring to the horizon. But the word itself doesn't connote it.

 

[ThirtyThree]

Whether or not the Earth is flat or a sphere or a pyramid does not change my daily existence.

Neither does it change mine. This is well said.

 

[outhouse]

I personally lean towards the belief that the Earth is relatively flat.

Its a sad day indeed if this is not more POE.

 

[buddhist]

Its a sad day indeed if this is not more POE.

That's how I feel when people say that the earth is spherical, when they haven't seen it for themselves.

 

[fantome profane]

That's how I feel when people say that the earth is spherical, when they haven't seen it for themselves.

Have you seen the edge?

 

[buddhist]

Have you seen the edge?

Nope. Have you seen the sphere?

 

[fantome profane]

Nope. Have you seen the sphere?

yep

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...TwcBzINeuMHdafsW9HtVyw&bvm=bv.111396085,d.dmo

 

[buddhist]

yep

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjM7bbmqKDKAhWGKx4KHbWXAHkQFggbMAA&url=http://earth.google.ca/&usg=AFQjCNGbRlXtW7G3RjmmlyobeonqNy_jzg&sig2=TwcBzINeuMHdafsW9HtVyw&bvm=bv.111396085,d.dmo

No, that doesn't count. I am asking if you have seen the sphere of the Earth for yourself, with your own two eyes, directly.

 

[fantome profane]

No, that doesn't count. I am asking if you have seen the sphere of the Earth for yourself, with your own two eyes, directly.

I'm the urban spaceman baby.

 

[buddhist]

I'm the urban spaceman baby.

That's nice. Here's my evidence then:

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That's nice. Here's my evidence then:

Have you ever seen the edge of the Earth with your own eyes?

 

[buddhist]

Have you ever seen the edge of the Earth with your own eyes?

Nope. That's why I said it was my belief, not my knowledge.

I doubt anyone here has seen the sphere of the Earth with their own eyes either.

 

[fantome profane]

That's nice. Here's my evidence then:

Have you ever looked at the shadow that the earth casts on the moon?

You have seen this with your own eyes.

Try this experiment, it is something most people do as kids.

Get a plate, get a ball, and get a flashlight.

Use the plate and the flashlight to cast shadows on the wall. You will find that you can create a perfect circular shadow, but you can also create a line, or an oval shape.

Now use the ball and the flashlight to cast shadows on the wall. You will find that you can only create circular shadows. No matter how you hold the ball, no matter what angle you try with the ball or the flashlight you will always get a circular shadow.

That is why the earth always casts a circular shadow.


Try any other shape you want, only the sphere does this all the time.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Nope. That's why I said it was my belief, not my knowledge.

I doubt anyone here has seen the sphere of the Earth with their own eyes either.

So will you be convinced if we ever get an astronaut on the forum who's seen this:

with his own eyes?

 

[buddhist]

Have you ever looked at the shadow that the earth casts on the moon?

You have seen this with your own eyes.

Try this experiment, it is something most people do as kids.

Get a plate, get a ball, and get a flashlight.

Use the plate and the flashlight to cast shadows on the wall. You will find that you can create a perfect circular shadow, but you can also create a line, or an oval shape.

Now use the ball and the flashlight to cast shadows on the wall. You will find that you can only create circular shadows. No matter how you hold the ball, no matter what angle you try with the ball or the flashlight you will always get a circular shadow.

That is why the earth always casts a circular shadow.


Try any other shape you want, only the sphere does this all the time.

This is circumstantial evidence, and dependent on the assumption that it is the Earth casting the shadow as a result of the sun. I can also point to other flat earth evidence, such as various allegations that we can observe objects farther than we should be able to, if it was true that the earth was spherical.

There is plenty of circumstancial evidence on both side. However, until I can observe the whole of the Earth for myself, I cannot say for certain which side is correct, and I prefer to believe that it is flat, in accordance with my religious faith.