`The Biden administration is priming the press ...

[Laniakea]

The idea is to prevent an American war.

Oh sure! Sending F-16s to Ukraine after saying that would be crossing a red line, even after Ukraine has begun attacking targets inside of Russia (including Moscow), and openly bragging on the world stage about all the weapons and money we've sent to Ukraine won't do a thing to get America involved in a war with Russia.

Perhaps Biden never heard of the word "covert" or "discreet".

 

[Laniakea]

You contradicted yourself. If more people are voting for Trump, that means fewer people are being rational.

And now you're simply using faulty and circular reasoning.

 

[Laniakea]

No. It's completely irrational and unreasonable to vote for him at this point. He has no redeeming qualities. It's not even a case of a bad man who might have some good policy ideas. He has no policy ideas, other than lower taxes on the wealthy and "secure the border". He's a lying, narcissitic felon and con man who truly only cares about himself and already tried to plunge us into chaos by fomenting an insurrection. His plans for his second term could be catastrophic.

There is not a single rational reason to vote for him. The idea that the decision to vote for him can be rational is a blindspot for people who like to pretend to be neutral.

Here's an idea for you:
When enough people vote for Trump that he wins the election, you could leave our "irrational" country. Then you can go somewhere rational. Gaza might be more to your liking.

 

[Magic Man]

And now you're simply using faulty and circular reasoning.

Nope. Pointing out that you're wrong. People who vote for Trump are voting irrationally. So, if the number of Trump voters goes up, then the number of people acting rationally goes down.

 

[Magic Man]

Here's an idea for you:
When enough people vote for Trump that he wins the election, you could leave our "irrational" country. Then you can go somewhere rational. Gaza might be more to your liking.

Of course. That's the only solution for you. Because this is more about trying to win an argument or sound good to you. I'm not interested in leaving. I'm interested in our country not going to hell.

 

[Laniakea]

Nope. Pointing out that you're wrong. People who vote for Trump are voting irrationally. So, if the number of Trump voters goes up, then the number of people acting rationally goes down.

Nope. You're simply making an allegation (and one that is incorrect) about me.
I'm sure your opinion of people who don't vote the same as you do won't do anything to affect how they vote. It may affect how you interact with them, so be careful how you display your intolerance.

 

[Laniakea]

Of course. That's the only solution for you. Because this is more about trying to win an argument or sound good to you. I'm not interested in leaving. I'm interested in our country not going to hell.

You survived 4 years under Trump before. I'm sure you will manage to do it again. Just avoid being a BLM or Antifa type this time around and you'll be fine.

 

[Magic Man]

Nope. You're simply making an allegation (and one that is incorrect) about me.
I'm sure your opinion of people who don't vote the same as you do won't do anything to affect how they vote. It may affect how you interact with them, so be careful how you display your intolerance.

Nope. I'm pointing out the reality of the situation. I doubt my point about the irrationality of voting for Trump will affect anything, since I doubt any Trump voters would even care what I say, even if they heard it.

I am intolerant of things you should be intolerant of: bigotry, racism, misogyny, trying to destroy our democracy, having a convicted felon who can't even join the military lead it, etc. I display that intolerance as anyone should. But of course you go ahead and keep pretending that's the same as the intolerance you have toward those who disagree with you. Have fun with that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh sure! Sending F-16s to Ukraine after saying that would be crossing a red line, even after Ukraine has begun attacking targets inside of Russia (including Moscow), and openly bragging on the world stage about all the weapons and money we've sent to Ukraine won't do a thing to get America involved in a war with Russia.

Perhaps Biden never heard of the word "covert" or "discreet".

And citation needed. No crazy sources please.

 

[Magic Man]

You survived 4 years under Trump before. I'm sure you will manage to do it again. Just avoid being a BLM or Antifa type this time around and you'll be fine.

I'm not worried about me surviving. I'm in a pretty good position and probably won't be directly affected by the horrible things he wants to do.

But this time Trump and his team will be more ready. They know what they can get away with, and they have a plan, specifically Project 2025. People much smarter than Trump know exactly how to leverage his win to transform the government into something they can manipulate. Last time, our election held because there were enough people in the right positions who stood up to him and wouldn't let him cheat. If his team is able to put their plan into place in another term, the people in those positions this time will be yes men/women and will not protect us.

Just the fact that one would have to avoid supporting Black people and being against fascism in order to be all right is a big problem, though.

 

[Laniakea]

And citation needed. No crazy sources please.

You'd consider any source that doesn't support Leftist rhetoric to be crazy.

Biden shuts down sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine: ‘No’

Asked Monday about the prospect of supplying F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, President Biden flatly told reporters, “No.”

nypost.com

 

[Laniakea]

I'm not worried about me surviving. I'm in a pretty good position and probably won't be directly affected by the horrible things he wants to do.

But this time Trump and his team will be more ready. They know what they can get away with, and they have a plan, specifically Project 2025. People much smarter than Trump know exactly how to leverage his win to transform the government into something they can manipulate. Last time, our election held because there were enough people in the right positions who stood up to him and wouldn't let him cheat. If his team is able to put their plan into place in another term, the people in those positions this time will be yes men/women and will not protect us.

Just the fact that one would have to avoid supporting Black people and being against fascism in order to be all right is a big problem, though.

Oh man! You just uncovered the dark diabolical plan!
Would be better if you actually cited any sources that supported your claims though. (Leftist propaganda sites don't count)

 

[PureX]

The good news is that most normal people will soon become sick to death of all the endless droning on about "incompetent Biden" and the manipulated videos especially as Biden keeps showing up on their TV NOT doddering or incompetent. And especially when Trump remains the only alternative. The fascists truly believe that people are so stupid that if they lie to them often enough, they will eventually believe the lie. When in fact all that happens is that everyone just gets sick to death of hearing those lies over and over and over and over. They'd vote for Biden just to shut the endless droning liars up!

 

[Laniakea]

The good news is that most normal people will soon become sick to death of all the endless droning on about "incompetent Biden" and the manipulated videos especially as Biden keeps showing up on their TV NOT doddering or incompetent. And especially when Trump remains the only alternative. The fascists truly believe that people are so stupid that if they lie to them often enough, they will eventually believe the lie. When in fact all that happens is that everyone just gets sick to death of hearing those lies over and over and over and over. They'd vote for Biden just to shut the endless droning liars up!

I'd sure like to see when he's NOT doddering or incompetent. The debate didn't, and neither did his interview with George Stephanopolous. He can try it again at the Press conference tonight, but I'm betting he'll fail once again. Looking forward to it! KJP will even be there to translate for him.
It's scheduled for 6:30PM Eastern time.

 

[Magic Man]

Oh man! You just uncovered the dark diabolical plan!
Would be better if you actually cited any sources that supported your claims though. (Leftist propaganda sites don't count)

Here's the official site:

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

There's even a thread going right now talking about it. It's not exactly a secret. The fact that you either haven't heard about it or deny it says a lot.

 

[Laniakea]

Here's the official site:

Project 2025 | Presidential Transition Project

Presidential Transition Project The 2025 Presidential Transition Project paves the way for an effective conservative Administration based on four pillars.

www.project2025.org

There's even a thread going right now talking about it. It's not exactly a secret. The fact that you either haven't heard about it or deny it says a lot.

I've heard of it. So what's on that site that you think is so horrible? Let's see it.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Spoiler: Tim Black predicts Biden is not the nominee

I'm an independent. I agree that the DNC is giving up the fight if it supports a nominee that can't even debate. A president has to have the presence of mind to say 'No' to people that pressure them. We have to know who is in charge. We cannot have a shadow leader.

 

[Spice]

I've heard of it. So what's on that site that you think is so horrible? Let's see it.

Since I have a dear friend who is fully and completely a Trump supporter, but has become a bit obsessed with reading labels in search of GMO, let me take this opportunity to share one little aspect of the "plan" for Agriculture that begins on page 289 of the manifesto.

From page 307 -- so you must be diligent in your reading.....
Remove Obstacles for Agricultural Biotechnology. Innovation is critical to agricultural production and the ability to meet future food needs. The next Administration should embrace innovation and technology, not hinder its use—especially because of scare tactics that ignore sound science. One of the key innovations in agriculture is genetic engineering. According to the USDA, “[C]urrently, over 90 percent of U.S. corn, upland cotton, and soybeans are produced using GE [genetically engineered] varieties.”112 Despite the importance of agricultural biotechnology, in 2016, Congress passed a federal mandate to label genetically engineered food.113 This legislation was arguably just a means to try to provide a negative connotation to GE food. There are other challenges as well for agricultural biotechnology. For example, Mexico plans to ban the importation of U.S. genetically modified yellow corn.114 The next Administration should: l Counter scare tactics and remove obstacles. The USDA should strongly counter scare tactics regarding agricultural biotechnology and adopt policies to remove unnecessary barriers to approvals and the adoption of biotechnology. l Repeal the federal labeling mandate. The USDA should work with Congress to repeal the federal labeling law, while maintaining federal preemption, and stress that voluntary labeling is allowed. l Use all tools available to remove improper trade barriers against agricultural biotechnology. The USDA should work closely with the Office of the United States Trade Representative to remove improper barriers imposed by other countries to block U.S. agricultural goods.

In other words, if it makes money, pump them animals full of stuff and spray the daylights out those fields!

A bit reminiscent of the "advice" that resulted in the dust bowl, isn't it?

 

[Magic Man]

I've heard of it. So what's on that site that you think is so horrible? Let's see it.

You've heard of it but didn't know anything about it when I brought it up before...sure, makes sense...

What's so horrible? How about all of it? As I already laid out, it calls for replacing thousands of government officials with Trump yes men. That's the big one, because it's the most dangerous. It also wants to ban all abortion and the abortion pill, outlaw pornography and get rid of the Department of Education, among many other things. Just look at the main idea on their site:

"It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration."

They need to "put the right people in place" aside from elections.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You'd consider any source that doesn't support Leftist rhetoric to be crazy.

Biden shuts down sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine: ‘No’

Asked Monday about the prospect of supplying F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, President Biden flatly told reporters, “No.”

nypost.com

I asked for a reliable source and you could not find one. Why am I not surprised? And worse yet for you, even your right wing source did not support your claim. Did you forget that you wrote that quickly?