FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Do you think human can speak properly if not designed to have the dual function of the pharynx.
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The blind faith of the evolutionists
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Do you think human can speak properly if not designed to have the dual function of the pharynx.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
No. Things change themselves. Creation = Change. Change = Creation.
Yes and no.
I believe awareness of identity is a primary function of existence just as the substrate is necessary for that same primary function to exist. It's a co-existence and co-dependency you can't break.
I don't know if the stars are conscious or not. Probably not. But... since consciousness is a matter of processing information, I can't say if there can exist other forms of consciousness in the universe or even if the light traversing between galaxies are transferring energy and causing some kind of awareness. Who knows? I don't. What makes a consciousness or awareness in the end? I can't say. It might be part of the very fabric of space-time, like another dimension to our world.but do you think the stars are conscious and a part of God and then it work in harmony with the other parts of the universe.
Sure. Trinity is a simple. Understanding existence is much harder.For me the trinity is much easier to understand than this complexity.
After all, when we are present at a place and time, we are there with or without awareness (like sleeping or drugged) but our body is still there. Our consciousness is always tied to that body. Our consciousness grew from a body when we were young. Our body came first, then our consciousness, and it wasn't immediate but a progressive process. So even if awareness is a mystery in itself, it is very much depedent on how this world works.
One interesting thing is that I read once that there are experiments showing that our awareness is lagging. It tends to come after we have made a decision. Like our lips, they shape to prepare for the next words we're saying before we're aware that we're going to say those words. We think we think the words, while they're already prepared as a stream of thoughts in our subconscious and our body is already prepared for it. Then we're aware of what we're doing and think we're in control. Something like that. So awareness, if these things are true, are more of the observer of what is happening, without control, but under the illusion of control.
So what came first? God's intention or God's awareness of his intentions?
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FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Dolphins communicate and understand each other.
Farrukh
Active Member
God has awarded us with brain that contains more than 80 billion nerve cells, recently scientists did an experiment, they created an artificial neural network of 1.73 billion nerve cells connected by 10.4 trillion synapses for this experiment and came to know that simulating 1 second of human brain activity takes 82,944 processors, and with this number of processors, they were unable to do simulation in real time, it took almost 40 minutes for simulating 1sec activity.
Why Lord of all lords, King of all kings, owner of whole universe, the Almighty God, the only one with absolute knowledge and power should talk to you?
and many people in past also asked similar questions as you are asking and Muslims were informed about that
Those who have no knowledge (of reality) said, “Why does Allah not speak to us (Himself)? Why does a sign not come to us?” People (who lived) before them had also said the same thing in (more or less) the same words. Their hearts are closely aligned! We have (already) made Our signs manifest for the nation that has the certainty of belief. ( Noble Quran 2:118 )
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Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Red herring. Can you see why?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I may add that atheists won't believe whatever signs came to them.
In one other thread,i asked one atheist,What his response will be if God talked to him.
His reply was as follow
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
What does that have to do with evolution?
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I was just going to ask the same question. Isn't this thread supposed to be about the theory of evolution, or is there anything I'm missing?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
I don't know...
It was a bit from the left field. Is judgment day somehow incompatible with evolution?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
This is a great sign that no one can neglect once it happen and it'll be even greater than God talking to you as we do by phone.
Again: What does that (an eschatological belief) have to do with evolution (a scientific theory)?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
So that means evolution is false because one day God will finally talk? I don't see the connection.
We can talk over internet and phone, yet God won't do it until... 1 year from now, 10 years from now, 100 years from now, 1,000,000 years from now. Who knows? Not much of evidence for anything to assume that it might happen some day.
One day invisible pink unicorns will show up in the sky. Therefore invisible pink unicorns must be believed in today and evolution is false... :sarcastic
Here's the thing with that argument, what if God created the world using evolution and he will one day talk to you and judge the world? Sure. Heck, why not? But that wouldn't change the truth of evolution. A judgment day by God in the future wouldn't change evolution one single bit anymore than invisible pink unicorns.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Talking about what we think the author of it.
As believers we have a faith that God is behind evolution and that where it goes.
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
May i ask you one question and to reply it with honesty.
Would you believe that God does exist if you witnessed the sun rising from the west ?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
It is about the faith of who is behind it.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
If the sun was rising from the west... yeah, that would be quite a miracle. The physical laws that would have to be broken for that to happen, only God or some very powerful and intelligent crazy scientist could do something like that.
Farrukh
Active Member
it has nothing to do with evolution, it was a reminder, as a Muslim, it is my duty to spread true words, you can consider it advertisement :flirt:
Farrukh
Active Member
Is this question of any use? it will be already too late even if they accept God as creator.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
It's such a strange idea that God would be quiet for millennia, and then suddenly finally make himself obvious and available, but only those who believed without evidence for all that time before are valid to enter God's kingdom. It's a very a--h--- move. Why is it so important to God that we believe in him, right now, without evidence? And on top of that, there's a bunch of arguments done that we are supposed to take as evidence for God. So which is it? Is God leaving obvious and clear evidence for his existence (like throwing a great party and tell us that he exists and makes it obvious to everyone) or is he not (and it all depends on faith)? It's a very mixed message here. If God is leaving us evidence for his existence, then that evidence is currently very poor. He could do a better job. But if it all depends on that we believe without having sufficient evidence and when God shows himself seeing-and-believing suddenly doesn't matter (only blind faith), then why would God supposedly leave any evidence at all? Can't he be clear about this? Faith without evidence--then there shouldn't be anything and we shouldn't argue if there is any, or Faith with evidence--then there should be abundant and extremely clear (God should come make the sun come up from the West right now).