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The Border Wall. Biden admin waives federal laws to allow border wall construction in Texas

We Never Know

No Slack
Imagine that. I recall Biden saying "not one foot of wall will be built under my administration".
Funny how many of the left think there is no migrant problem.

Biden admin waives federal laws to allow border wall construction in Texas

"In a striking acknowledgment of the need to address the migrant influx at the southern border, the Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws to permit more border wall construction in southern Texas, a move that builds on one of the most controversial cornerstones of the Trump administration.

The Department of Homeland Security posted the announcement overnight in the Federal Registry, which said the administration was waiving federal laws such as the Clean Air Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act and the Endangered Species Act for the wall construction in Starr County, Texas, using federal funds appropriated in 2019.

There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in the notice.

In a statement, a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection noted that Mayorkas issued waiver under federal immigration law for a barrier project that was quietly announced in June, which will be constructed on about 17 miles in Starr County.

 
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Orbit

I'm a planet
No one has any thoughts on the border wall construction being started again?
Well, personally I think a 17-mile border wall is an exercise in futility, and a waste of money. The problem of why desperate people are trying to cross is historical and complicated, and in some cases U.S. foreign policy in the region is to blame, so we kind of made our own problem. I don't know what the solution is, but I don't think it's a wall.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Well, personally I think a 17-mile border wall is an exercise in futility, and a waste of money. The problem of why desperate people are trying to cross is historical and complicated, and in some cases U.S. foreign policy in the region is to blame, so we kind of made our own problem. I don't know what the solution is, but I don't think it's a wall.

More than 2.2 million(183,000 per month average) since last Oct.

Something needs to be done. A wall can't hurt can it?.
If walls don't accomplish anything then they need to take the one down around the white house.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
More than 2.2 million(183,000 per month average) since last Oct.

Something needs to be done. A wall can't hurt can it?.
If walls don't accomplish anything then they need to take the one down around the white house.
Well, what we've seen with walls is that desperate people are ingenious. They go around the wall. They go over the wall. They go under the wall. I think we need to step back and address the causes instead of trying to treat the symptoms.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member

The Border Wall. Biden admin waives federal laws to allow border wall construction in Texas​


If he does that he may get kicked out of the democratic party and end up as Trumps VP.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
If you've got some time, this is Biden's plan to address the causes of the immigration.
 

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, what we've seen with walls is that desperate people are ingenious. They go around the wall. They go over the wall. They go under the wall. I think we need to step back and address the causes instead of trying to treat the symptoms.
The purpose of the wall isn't to stop anyone.
It's to make'm easier to catch (IMO).
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Something else for if you have time: A research report where they asked migrants at the border why they left home. Short answer: violence, poverty, natural disaster displacement.

 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
Imagine that. I recall Biden saying "not one foot of wall will be built under my administration".
Funny how many of the left think there is no migrant problem.

Biden admin waives federal laws to allow border wall construction in Texas

"In a striking acknowledgment of the need to address the migrant influx at the southern border, the Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws to permit more border wall construction in southern Texas, a move that builds on one of the most controversial cornerstones of the Trump administration.

The Department of Homeland Security posted the announcement overnight in the Federal Registry, which said the administration was waiving federal laws such as the Clean Air Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act and the Endangered Species Act for the wall construction in Starr County, Texas, using federal funds appropriated in 2019.

There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in the notice.

In a statement, a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection noted that Mayorkas issued waiver under federal immigration law for a barrier project that was quietly announced in June, which will be constructed on about 17 miles in Starr County.


As Biden says in the video from your link, the money was appropriated for the construction of the wall. He has tried to get the money reappropriated and failed.
If Biden does not continue with border wall construction, then he will be in clear violation of the Appropriations Act from 1974. The claim from the other thread that he is breaking 26 laws by building the border wall, but if Biden does not resume construction, he violates appropriations from Congress.

The funding for this wall was appropriated in 2019 (by a Democrat controlled Congress) and Biden has fought against it every day of his Presidency through deliberate obstruction. Don't be confused, Biden does not want the border wall, but this willful charade has finally reached its limit.

It's also possible that he wants to get ahead of any impeachment for his failure to secure the borders of the U.S. now that McCarthy is no longer Speaker. If the House impeaches, then Biden's failure to secure the border will surely be one of the reasons given. McCarthy may have obstructed impeachment, but there's no guarantee that the next speaker will.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Couold someone explain the following:
From Fox News
"I want to address today’s reporting relating to a border wall and be absolutely clear," he said in a statement. "There is no new Administration policy with respect to border walls. From day one, this Administration has made clear that a border wall is not the answer."

and from: CBS
"Washington — Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas on Thursday rebuffed growing criticism over his decision to approve the construction of more than a dozen miles of border walls along the U.S.-Mexico border, saying the Biden administration was bound by law to follow through with the project.

Mayorkas rejected the notion that the administration had changed its policy as it relates to a border wall, which President Biden strongly denounced during the 2020 presidential campaign.

"From day one, this Administration has made clear that a border wall is not the answer," Mayorkas said in a statement Thursday. "That remains our position and our position has never wavered.""
 

anna.

colors your eyes with what's not there
It’s that time of year again. There’s a chill in the morning air. Election yard signs are popping up on lawns. And the headlines are screaming about an immigration crisis. That’s right: It’s border panic season.

In 2018, it was the migrant caravans. In 2022, it was “crime and fentanyl.” Now, as off-year elections near and the 2024 primaries wrap up before they begin, the discourse is turning toward migrants across the country. In the last 24 hours alone, the New York Times has run no fewer than nine stories about immigration, from migrant housing shortages in Chicago and New York to a story about the surveillance of visa applicants’ social media profiles. (The latter story, by Charlie Savage, is a perfect encapsulation of the genre: a piece about a ridiculously invasive Trump-era program, continued by Biden, that violates immigrants’ rights for no reason, yet manages to smuggle the words “terrorism” and “possible terrorists” into the headline and the lede.)

The Times of course has nothing on Fox News, which has filed FIFTY stories under its “immigration” tag in the last day.

. . . .

In other words, this is a policy problem, not an existential crisis.
If you read the Times story about Chicago, it makes the scale of that city’s problem clear: 2,300 migrants, mostly Venezuelans, “sleeping at police stations, in lobbies and just outside in makeshift camps.” To put that in context, the metropolitan population of Chicago (which includes O’Hare Airport, where some 800 of the migrants are sleeping) is nearly 10 million people. There are 800 units in Chicago’s largest luxury apartment building alone (not that the residents will be willing to share); nearly a quarter of office space in downtown Chicago is vacant. Again, it’s a policy issue—a thorny one, but a policy issue. Compare that to the Times’ headline: “As Winter Looms, Venezuelan Migrant Surge Overwhelms Chicago.” Cue the White Walkers theme.

Meanwhile, on the right, the rhetoric is even more apocalyptic. The most common invocation of the border in Republican circles of late is in the context of the Russo-Ukrainian war. (“The only border they care about is Ukraine, not America’s southern border,” Majorie Taylor Greene said in February.) One of the big pieces of the tumult that ended up costing Kevin McCarthy the speakership was the imagined tradeoff between shipping arms to Ukraine and reforming asylum and general immigration procedures here. A common legislative tactic in response has been to tie funding and weapons transfers for Ukraine to the further militarization of the U.S.-Mexico border. The upshot is to cement in people’s minds an image of war; a rhetorical sleight of hand that turns children slicing their arms on concertina wire in the Rio Grande into the equivalent of Russian tanks storming the border at Kharkiv Oblast.

Not to be outdone, Donald Trump declared last week that immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country”; an image that is so blatantly Nazi that even the Times had to point out the allusion. (The reporter, Trip Gabriel, ended the piece with four paragraphs about Trump’s personal admiration for Adolf Hitler. One wonders where those insights go when it comes to the paper’s general political coverage.) Trump has also declared his intention to invade Mexico if he gets back to the White House.

None of this has anything to do with immigrants or immigration as it exists; it’s an imaginary, a Monster of the Week. Though there is an irony of the right-wing rhetoric: the constant false claims that the border is “open” to illegal immigration fuels false rumors, which in turn goad “goading desperate migrants to take their chances on the old, more dangerous path: show up at the border fence and see what happens,” as the El Paso Times reported recently.

This is how this works: The right goes full nativist—just frothing racist invective, visions of a homeland destroyed, white families wandering destitute in a future world ruined by alien invaders, demanding a garrison state in response. Centrists in politics and the media freak out. The reactionary mayor of New York starts talking about how the city is about to be “destroyed” (a city that he is, at the exact same moment, trying to hype to Mexico City tech firms). The Biden administration flails about, granting temporary protected status to undocumented Venezuelans one day, ordering newer arrivals deported the next; ordering 20 miles of pre-appropriated barriers built, in violation of environmental laws, while publicly (and correctly) saying that border walls don’t solve anything. And then the season passes—the election ends, the topics change—and the migrants disappear again from the discourse. But not, crucially, from real life. Out there their struggles continue, ready to become fodder again as soon as the politics require.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Imagine that. I recall Biden saying "not one foot of wall will be built under my administration".
Funny how many of the left think there is no migrant problem.

Biden admin waives federal laws to allow border wall construction in Texas

"In a striking acknowledgment of the need to address the migrant influx at the southern border, the Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws to permit more border wall construction in southern Texas, a move that builds on one of the most controversial cornerstones of the Trump administration.

The Department of Homeland Security posted the announcement overnight in the Federal Registry, which said the administration was waiving federal laws such as the Clean Air Act, the Safe Drinking Water Act and the Endangered Species Act for the wall construction in Starr County, Texas, using federal funds appropriated in 2019.

There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas,” Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said in the notice.

In a statement, a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection noted that Mayorkas issued waiver under federal immigration law for a barrier project that was quietly announced in June, which will be constructed on about 17 miles in Starr County.

The Biden administration can no longer lie and remind in denial about the border invasion and all socials costs that it is creating. It was a good strategy by the Governor of Texas, to bus part of the immigration burden to liberal sanctuary cities, like NYC. These sanctuary cites had acted as a lures to immigrants, by pretending to care, as long as the problem was somewhere els, like the border state of Texas.

Now these same two faced Democrats, who now get to experience the problem, first hand, are at odds with with Democrats who are still sheltered from the problem that they help to encourage. It takes Democrats longer to conclude what Trump knew years ago. Dems are a little thick and need a reality check before they can see.

This small piece of wall project is more of a symbolic deterrent to future immigrants. It will symbolize that the door is no longer wide open, so potential future immigrants need to pause, and go by the legal immigration pathway, from their native countries, instead of storm the castle at the bequest of the Democrats.

Knowing how Democrat leaders are very deceptive, this gesture may only be for the upcoming election season, since the polls are in and too much illegal immigration is not a winning hand, especially with liberal NY state and the NYT whining. They need to pretend, for the time being, to neutralize an issue, that is hurting them at the polls. This is why Mayorkas is saying one thing to the pro-immigration half of the base, while doing the other thing; build, for other half of the base, that is slipping away; two faced shuffle. Lefties fall for the two faced shuffle all the time and is amusing to watch.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
The Biden administration can no longer lie and remind in denial about the border invasion and all socials costs that it is creating. It was a good strategy by the Governor of Texas, to bus part of the immigration burden to liberal sanctuary cities, like NYC. These sanctuary cites had acted as a lures to immigrants, by pretending to care, as long as the problem was somewhere els, like the border state of Texas.

Now these same two faced Democrats, who now get to experience the problem, first hand, are at odds with with Democrats who are still sheltered from the problem that they help to encourage. It takes Democrats longer to conclude what Trump knew years ago. Dems are a little thick and need a reality check before they can see.

This small piece of wall project is more of a symbolic deterrent to future immigrants. It will symbolize that the door is no longer wide open, so potential future immigrants need to pause, and go by the legal immigration pathway, from their native countries, instead of storm the castle at the bequest of the Democrats.

Knowing how Democrat leaders are very deceptive, this gesture may only be for the upcoming election season, since the polls are in and too much illegal immigration is not a winning hand, especially with liberal NY state and the NYT whining. They need to pretend, for the time being, to neutralize an issue, that is hurting them at the polls. This is why Mayorkas is saying one thing to the pro-immigration half of the base, while doing the other thing; build, for other half of the base, that is slipping away; two faced shuffle. Lefties fall for the two faced shuffle all the time and is amusing to watch.
Sure Biden can, he doesn't remember saying it.
 

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Well, what we've seen with walls is that desperate people are ingenious. They go around the wall. They go over the wall. They go under the wall. I think we need to step back and address the causes instead of trying to treat the symptoms.
The wall is simply a part of Trumps overall border security plan, it was never meant to be a stand alone deterrent but rather a very formidable obstacle.
 
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