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The Bottomless Pit (Revelation): Demiurgic Gate

Abishai100

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"And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit." - Revelation 9:1

Could the bottomless pit described in the Bible be a characterization of the mental labyrinths created by the dangerous meanderings of men? Certainly humanity in the modern age is interested in such questions, given that it make network-behaviour paranoia films such as The Wolf of Wall Street and Pan's Labyrinth.

Human beings are curious about everything, so what if poor judgment or unnatural science leads us to an endless obsession with mysteries such as infinity and sin? Such a 'wayward intellectualism' could hypothetically open up an abyss of doubt.

How much do we feel that the Bible covers such concerns/consciousness, and what obligations does the Christian God have in conveying to man authority over the expanse?




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Abishai100

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The Rat Race: Axiomatic Abnormality

If we look at the 'causality' or 'origin' of the Bottomless Pit, we find interesting parallels to the origins of Sin itself as described in the Christian Bible.

The Bottomless Pit in Revelation seems to signify a human curiosity about the potential limits and limitlessness of vanity and ambition, while Sin (as described in Genesis and elsewhere in the Old and New Testament) seems to signify a human curiosity about moral apathy and deception.

From computer science, we know that communication can be broken down geometrically (or arithmetically) into units or binary pieces to form 'intelligent algorithms.' If intelligence itself is a combination of 'elements,' then the Bottomless Pit and Sin may be different poles of a 'constructive reality.'

The world is what we make of it, and more essentially, the world can 'become' the constructed product of our wayward behaviour (or corruption).

Perhaps, therefore, the Bottomless Pit is the result of 'competitive obsession.'



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URAVIP2ME

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"And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit." - Revelation 9:1
Could the bottomless pit described in the Bible be a characterization of the mental labyrinths created by the dangerous meanderings of men? Certainly humanity in the modern age is interested in such questions, given that it make network-behaviour paranoia films such as The Wolf of Wall Street and Pan's Labyrinth.
Human beings are curious about everything, so what if poor judgment or unnatural science leads us to an endless obsession with mysteries such as infinity and sin? Such a 'wayward intellectualism' could hypothetically open up an abyss of doubt.
How much do we feel that the Bible covers such concerns/consciousness, and what obligations does the Christian God have in conveying to man authority over the expanse?
Abyss (Religion)

That bottomless pit ( abyss ) is Not for humans.
That 'pit' is for Satan and his demons - Revelation 20 - that is where they are held during Jesus' 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth.
Revelation 20:12 assures us that during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth new books ( scrolls ) of life will be opened.
So, God is obligated to convey or educate authority about Earth and its expanse - Psalms 115:16
There will be No ' abyss of doubt ' because under Christ mankind can always learn more and more each day forever and ever - John 21:25
 

Abishai100

Member
Denominator Doubt

Yes, the pit is reserved for the devil and his angels, but it represents a decay in the resilience of man, since Jesus reminded us that we are all gods and that the sins of others reflect on the meditation of our own courage, so any 'presence' of a horrible pit certainly impacts the 'sanctity' of man.

I was thinking about depictions of morality destruction in pop culture and mainstream/comics art and how it represents a social curiosity about 'experience deformity.' The fictional American comic book super-villain Gray Goblin (Gabriel Stacy), for example, is an evil mutant progeny of the heroic webbed-wonder Spider-Man (Marvel Comics), and symbolizes self-destruction fears.

Could the Bottomless Pit be some kind of analogy for mob psychology?



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Abishai100

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Swamp Thing Distraction?

How about this relevant mock dialogue between the Christian Messiah Jesus Christ and the modern-day eco-activist American movie superstar Leo DiCaprio about the social appeal and value of the eco-paranoia comic book character Swamp Thing?

Such a dialogue motivates me to think about 'heaven's ditches,' which sounds less menacing than Revelation terms such as harlot of Babylon, the Dragon, and the manslayer.

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JESUS: The Swamp Thing is a delightful symbol of the pedestrian interest in attainable justice.
LEO: The Swamp Thing is really about eco-terrorism.
JESUS: Yes, but such incendiary ideas about civilization regret yields only wrath.
LEO: Wrath promotes meditation.
JESUS: Do you support Occultist religions and believe they have a link to comic book art?
LEO: Yes, there are many intriguing 'dark-art' comics out there, and I at least appreciate them.
JESUS: Come to my Church, and we'll give you brochures about water-pistols as a substitute for eco-terrorism.
LEO: I like your Church, Sacred one of Israel, and I'd like to learn more about comics art propaganda.
JESUS: Comic books definitely hype the romanticism of vigilante behaviours.
LEO: They also inspire people to think optimistically about law and order.
JESUS: It's a double-edged sword.
LEO: Eco-consciousness should at least make us wary of the eco-conditions of swamps right here in America.
JESUS: Yes, but does the art make us more meditative or more consumptive about species intelligence arrogance?
LEO: Good question, I don't know, but I think art can keep us falling into the bottomless hope of imagination despair.

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Abishai100

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Dialogic Descension: Calamity vs. Doubt

However, we can also find interesting (and thought-provoking) purgatory advertising in strict Occultism in the mainstream (e.g., Polanski's The Ninth Gate) and how its symbolism beckons ideas about 'damnation versus statehood,' which terrorists in the modern age use to discuss 'justified war.'



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Abishai100

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War-Games: Doughnuts & Dexterity


In the comics-adapted film Superman III, the world's favorite superhero, Superman, succumbs to the potency of a devastating substance-altering poisonous material called Kryptonite and temporarily becomes evil.

Frailty is an important feature of reality to human beings, since it motivates us to focus on danger.

The Bible definitely suggests the Bottomless Pit is dangerous and something to be dealt with efficiently.

I'd like to add the notion that the existence of a symbolic bottomless or waterless pit implies a 'fitness-intrigue' associated with war (or conflict).

Why do we celebrate films such as WarGames and Army of Darkness? Conflict contemplation and the competitive spirit is evidentially part of the human composition.

What if the Bottomless Pit is an area where human beings are fighting around, circling with swords but avoiding?

Characterizations of fighting-skills in art/society seem to suggest that humans are naturally anxious about 'courage depth.'


Army of Darkness (Film)




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