The Caine Mutiny (1954)

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This movie has been an old favorite of mine. I figure there must be a few fans of this movie out there.

I've seen discussions and arguments about the mutiny and the circumstances surrounding it. My father considered Lt. Keefer as the main villain in the movie, because he kept insisting the captain was paranoid and a mental case. In fact, my dad hated Keefer so much that he had trouble watching Fred MacMurray on "My Three Sons" because of it.

Some have argued that Captain Queeg should not have been relieved, although looking at the film itself during the typhoon scene, the captain seemed to be zoning out and losing track of things.

But it was the strawberry investigation where Queeg proved them all wrong. They laughed at him and made jokes, but he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with...geometric logic...that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist, and he would have produced that key if they hadn't pulled the Caine out of action.

 

[Mock Turtle]

This movie has been an old favorite of mine. I figure there must be a few fans of this movie out there.

I've seen discussions and arguments about the mutiny and the circumstances surrounding it. My father considered Lt. Keefer as the main villain in the movie, because he kept insisting the captain was paranoid and a mental case. In fact, my dad hated Keefer so much that he had trouble watching Fred MacMurray on "My Three Sons" because of it.

Some have argued that Captain Queeg should not have been relieved, although looking at the film itself during the typhoon scene, the captain seemed to be zoning out and losing track of things.

But it was the strawberry investigation where Queeg proved them all wrong. They laughed at him and made jokes, but he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with...geometric logic...that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist, and he would have produced that key if they hadn't pulled the Caine out of action.

Has been on UK TV recently and watched it probably a few weeks ago, but have seen it before. Bogart rarely is bad in anything so I would usually watch if he is in such. Can't really comment on this film though, other than seeing Queeg as being paranoid and not being the best example of leadership.

 

[PureX]

This movie has been an old favorite of mine. I figure there must be a few fans of this movie out there.

I've seen discussions and arguments about the mutiny and the circumstances surrounding it. My father considered Lt. Keefer as the main villain in the movie, because he kept insisting the captain was paranoid and a mental case. In fact, my dad hated Keefer so much that he had trouble watching Fred MacMurray on "My Three Sons" because of it.

Some have argued that Captain Queeg should not have been relieved, although looking at the film itself during the typhoon scene, the captain seemed to be zoning out and losing track of things.

But it was the strawberry investigation where Queeg proved them all wrong. They laughed at him and made jokes, but he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with...geometric logic...that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist, and he would have produced that key if they hadn't pulled the Caine out of action.

It was a question of incompetent authority. At what point and by what criteria do soldiers have the right to reject the authority of their superiors? The film was about asking the question, not providing the answer.

 

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This movie has been an old favorite of mine. I figure there must be a few fans of this movie out there.

I've seen discussions and arguments about the mutiny and the circumstances surrounding it. My father considered Lt. Keefer as the main villain in the movie, because he kept insisting the captain was paranoid and a mental case. In fact, my dad hated Keefer so much that he had trouble watching Fred MacMurray on "My Three Sons" because of it.

Some have argued that Captain Queeg should not have been relieved, although looking at the film itself during the typhoon scene, the captain seemed to be zoning out and losing track of things.

But it was the strawberry investigation where Queeg proved them all wrong. They laughed at him and made jokes, but he proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with...geometric logic...that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist, and he would have produced that key if they hadn't pulled the Caine out of action.

It has been quite a while since I saw that film. Was your father an officer in the armed forces? That is about the only one that I could think of that would have defended Queeg.

 

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Dang it, now I am trying to remember that movie too much. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As I recall Queeg was a one hundred percent by the book man. There was no give in him. He also was over controlling. If things didn't go his way he tried to fix them personally. As a leader those can be bad traits. Though there did not appear to be any planned insurrection at first he drove his crew to that point. If he had corrected from the top down, that is if had trusted his senior officers and tried to steer them in the right direction the mutiny wouldn't have happened.

The movie portrayed a man that largely self destructed.

 

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It has been quite a while since I saw that film. Was your father an officer in the armed forces? That is about the only one that I could think of that would have defended Queeg.

Yes, he was in the Coast Guard.

 

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Dang it, now I am trying to remember that movie too much. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As I recall Queeg was a one hundred percent by the book man. There was no give in him. He also was over controlling. If things didn't go his way he tried to fix them personally. As a leader those can be bad traits. Though there did not appear to be any planned insurrection at first he drove his crew to that point. If he had corrected from the top down, that is if had trusted his senior officers and tried to steer them in the right direction the mutiny wouldn't have happened.

The movie portrayed a man that largely self destructed.

This was a key scene early on while the Caine is towing a target. Queeg gets distracted in reprimanding a sailor for having his shirt tail out, to the point where the ship cuts across its own tow line.