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The Choice to Love
- Thread starter Willamena
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Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Its better to have a choice. As humans we were born with free will.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
How does one "have a choice" about something?
Could you chose to not love him?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
This would seem inherently contradictory to me and therefore impossible.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Yes you can not love him. But so is the human state that they wil love god.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
So having an aesthetic sense determine a preference is a "choice"? Why couldn't that be applied to "God"? More importantly, is that really a "choice"? Where do aesthetic sensibilities come from? And what would it mean to "not have a choice" then?
No, I mean you, personally. Could you chose not to love God?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I haven't fully worked this through yet but it is something that preoccupies me.doppelgänger;1049769 said:
In the physical there is no choice, everything physical obeys natural laws. There is a part of us that is transcendental - our mind. This is not subject to natural laws because it is not physical. It is therefore the only place where we have choice. Not in what we do but in what we think(maybe) and feel(for sure).
I'm enquiring about it applied to "loving God," that is the image or idea held of creatorship in which "I" participate (either as created or co-creator, whatever idea is held). To put it another way, could anyone who holds to God not love God?doppelgänger;1049788 said:
I've no better definition of "choice" at the moment. Do you have one?
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Yes i could. But thats not possible since i am here due to god. It is in-built for me to love god.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
What would be the alternative? Let's say my aesthetic preference was to not "love God," but God created this system where he/she/it is going to torture me for all eternity if I don't. I can weigh my aesthetic preference for not loving God against my aesthetic preference for not being tortured for all eternity and make a "choice" to love "God"?
Now, the million dollar questions: Is that even a "choice"? And can its product reasonably be considered "love"?
That's what I would call "no choice but to love God."
logician
Well-Known Member
Why would a supposed god love me?
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
I'm trying to address the OP. I can't figure out what a "choice to love God" would be.Then the question becomes, if it's not love does any of this actually address the OP?
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Because the Bible tells us so . . . :slap:
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
You exist, if you choose to cherish existance, to me that is to choose to love God.doppelgänger;1049827 said:I'm trying to address the OP. I can't figure out what a "choice to love God" would be.