God claims to be a kind shepard, but he sends people to eternal suffering, doesnt use his power to create a perfect world for us, tries to completely rule our lives and spreads hate and fear through put the wprld. I perspnally can never see the Christian god as anything but the one true evil. What are your opinions on the subject ?
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The Christian god: slave driver or kind shepard ?
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captainbryce
Active Member
In order to craft an argument against God, one must first have some understanding of his intent, his role and his actions. Coming to a conclusion based on a faulty premise will only lead to continued confusion. Here, let me help you:
Psst, over here:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/151860-hell.html
My opinion is that YHVH is just one God of many.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Which are easily concocted so as to keep him from tarnishing.
Non-faulty premises being those that always come out in favor of god. Yeah, we've seen this shell game before, CB.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
I believe in a God of absolute, unconditional love whose only desire is to lift us out of the suffering of this world.
Talk to more Christians. There are many ideas.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Seeing that we're still here suffering, what's taking him so long? Or don't desires translate into actions?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
You need to come to a better understanding.
captainbryce
Active Member
Somehow, I don't think that is what he is really after.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
I don't believe God has control over this physical dimension.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Contrary to what other religions claim. But hey, if that's your belief, so be it.
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Blackdog22
Well-Known Member
He made a dimension that he can't control or that he simply doesn't want to control? If he can't control it then he isn't much of a God, if he doesn't want to then he would be considered evil by most atheists and I am sure people of other religions as its easier to be objective when judging another religion.
Sha'irullah
رسول الآلهة
Does leave room for improvement.
This has always been my personal view which led me away from religions.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
I'm a Gnostic. I don't believe this is his creation.
Blackdog22
Well-Known Member
Oh, interesting. Sorry for assuming. I get so used to a certain viewpoint that I sometimes make bad assumptions.
nazz
Doubting Thomas
No worries.
I wanted to add that the God I believe is not into controlling things at all. But he does influence this world through people.