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The Chuch of England's 'Take' on Gay Clergy

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/26/ngay26.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/07/26/ixportal.html

The Chuch of England's 'Take' on this is best described as:-

'Marriages' but no sex for gay clergy
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
(Filed: 26/07/2005)
The Church of England is to allow gay clergy to enter into civil partnerships but only if they promise to abstain from sex, according to guidance issued yesterday.

It has been drawn up to clarify the Church's position on the Civil Partnerships Act, which will offer same-sex couples a legal status similar to marriage when it comes into effect on Dec 5.

In a "pastoral statement", the House of Bishops said that clergy would be able to take advantage of the Act, but only if they reassure their bishops that they will uphold Church teaching. Clergy were also told that they should not offer formal services of blessing for couples who had been through a civil partnership ceremony, but they could pray with the couple.

Gay activists claim that more than 700 clergy are lining up to "marry" same-sex partners in a development that could increase strains within the Church over homosexuality.

According to insiders, they might include Dr Jeffrey John, the gay but celibate cleric who was forced to step down as Bishop of Reading in 2003 following a conservative backlash. Dr John is now Dean of St Albans.

Many conservatives in the worldwide Anglican Church will portray the development as undermining the Church's hard-line stance on the issue. But the bishops sought to dampen controversy over the partnerships yesterday by insisting that it will not change Church policy. They argued that the law would not introduce "gay marriage" because, although it gives partners rights in areas such as pensions, it does not presuppose sexual relations.

They admitted that the Act was ambiguous and would be widely perceived as the equivalent of marriage, but they pointed out that Government ministers had explicitly denied that this was their intention.

The bishops' statement said that clergy who wished to register their partnerships should first reassure their bishops that they will respect Church policy.

It said: "The House of Bishops does not regard entering into a civil partnership as intrinsically incompatible with holy orders provided the person concerned is willing to give assurances to his or her bishop that the relationship is consistent with the standards for clergy set out in Issues in Human Sexuality."

The 1991 document permitted gay relationships between lay people, but said that clergy were public figures who had to adopt different standards of sexual behaviour.

The Bishop of Norwich, the Rt Rev Graham James, said that priests who failed to live up to these standards, or who refused to answer reasonable questions about their private live, could face discipline.

He said that action could be taken under the Clergy Discipline Measure to be introduced this year, though he admitted that it had not been tested in court. The bishop, who headed the working party that drew up the statement, stressed they were not planning an "inquisition".

Some bishops are furious that the Government has put them in such a difficult position by framing the legislation in an ambiguous way.

While they support the idea that lifelong friends should have some protection, they feel that the civil partnership legislation could erode the unique position of marriage.

The Rev Richard Kirker, general secretary of the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement, accused the Church of showing "contempt" for gay partnerships. He predicted that many gay clergy would lie to their bishops about their private lives or ignore them.
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
You can marry, and cohabitate, but are expected not to have sex with one another?



Bwahahahahahahahaahha. I have a bridge I would LOVE to sell to the person who came up with that idea. Youzer. Talk about having your head in the sand.

Nice to see that they have taken a more liberal approach to gays, tho. Better than the stoning laid out in the old testament.

B.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
again, i see the all too comon view of "we love you as a siner, we just hate your sin, and we accept you as you are, but if you could conform that would be great"

i appologise, but i am frustrated over this! from the christian perspective, it come down to the question of "are gay people saved?" and the answer is "as saved as the rest of the world" - bearing in mind that christ died so that we (those who are not worthy) could have relations with God, so as to recieve god's gift of salvation!

C_P
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
corrupt_priest said:
again, i see the all too comon view of "we love you as a siner, we just hate your sin, and we accept you as you are, but if you could conform that would be great"

i appologise, but i am frustrated over this! from the christian perspective, it come down to the question of "are gay people saved?" and the answer is "as saved as the rest of the world" - bearing in mind that christ died so that we (those who are not worthy) could have relations with God, so as to recieve god's gift of salvation!

C_P
Corrupt, I read this 3 times and can make neither head's nor tail's of it. Are you saying gays make it into heaven, or they don't make it into heaven?

If they make it into heaven, are you happy about this?

If they don't make it into heaven, are you happy about that?

B.
 
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