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The Contributions of Religion to Modern Science vs. New Atheism

Debater Slayer

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Comfortably perched atop the podium, Christopher Hitchens declared religion to be an "axis of evil" to an audience comprising, inevitably, some self-identified skeptics and anti-religious listeners. With seemingly equal disdain for nuance and religious belief, it was in this environment that a plethora of similar declarations were afoot, spearheaded by famous proponents of "New Atheism," including Hitchens himself along with Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Daniel Dennett.

Religion, within this framework, was a mere impediment to human progress at worst and a primitive emotional crutch at best. God was simply a "Delusion" (Richard Dawkins, 2006) and "Not Great" (Hitchens, 2007). Faith was to "End" (Sam Harris, 2004), and science could answer moral questions in a Moral Landscape (Sam Harris, 2010). Religion in general and theism in specific had become obsolete and harmful, or so one could be led to believe.

But a major fault line remained along the confident declarations of New Atheism, sustained both by history and the roots of science. Was religion merely an irredeemable axis of evil? Did it teach "[us] to be satisfied with not understanding the world" (Richard Dawkins)?

Modern psychology, for instance, extensively employs mindfulness practice in well-evidenced therapeutic approaches. These practices have their roots in Buddhist philosophy and practices dating back over 2,000 years. Siddhartha Gautama's teachings were not reducible to a "delusion" or "evil," then, nor could their immense contribution to modern science be overlooked by any serious student of history or science.

Millennia later, Christian theology would give rise to fundamental underpinnings of modern science and the Enlightenment. Far from being invoked only in justification of burnings at the stake or holy crusades, the name of God was at the core of numerous scientific endeavors that would later pave the way for our modern world to take its current shape.

Islam's emphasis on the five daily prayers as one of its Five Pillars motivated a subset of the study of astronomy in the medieval era, some of which would influence later research in the field.

Much like a wall made up of continuously accumulating bricks, modern knowledge did not suddenly spring into existence. It is built upon increments from previous millennia, much of which would not have been possible without religion as a component of the human condition. The notion that we should now crush some of the first bricks to be laid and treat them as a hindrance rather than a step along the way seems contrary to history, logic, and—to borrow a favorite term among New Atheist circles—reason.
 

F1fan

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Comfortably perched atop the podium, Christopher Hitchens declared religion to be an "axis of evil" to an audience comprising, inevitably, some self-identified skeptics and anti-religious listeners. With seemingly equal disdain for nuance and religious belief, it was in this environment that a plethora of similar declarations were afoot, spearheaded by famous proponents of "New Atheism," including Hitchens himself along with Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Daniel Dennett.

Religion, within this framework, was a mere impediment to human progress at worst and a primitive emotional crutch at best. God was simply a "Delusion" (Richard Dawkins, 2006) and "Not Great" (Hitchens, 2007). Faith was to "End" (Sam Harris, 2004), and science could answer moral questions in a Moral Landscape (Sam Harris, 2010). Religion in general and theism in specific had become obsolete and harmful, or so one could be led to believe.

But a major fault line remained along the confident declarations of New Atheism, sustained both by history and the roots of science. Was religion merely an irredeemable axis of evil? Did it teach "[us] to be satisfied with not understanding the world" (Richard Dawkins)?
It's hard to characterize all religion in the same way since there is a range of belief among theists. Some Christians never go to church or pray, yet consider themselves Christian for some reason, probably just because it is a convenient category. The anti-religious New Atheism tends to focus not on the mundane believer, but those who are more extreme and use their religion to influence politics and society, like the latest set of controversial Supreme Court decisions, and anti-woke laws being advanced in Florida. These effects sof religion are negative, and violate norms that are crucial to governing.

Modern psychology, for instance, extensively employs mindfulness practice in well-evidenced therapeutic approaches. These practices have their roots in Buddhist philosophy and practices dating back over 2,000 years. Siddhartha Gautama's teachings were not reducible to a "delusion" or "evil," then, nor could their immense contribution to modern science be overlooked by any serious student of history or science.
Siddartha grew up exposed to Hinduism, but rejected this tradition of belief when he sought Enlightenment. His approach did not rely on belief, but in practical exercises and mental discipline. Some forms of Buddhism have introduced a divine, and I susvect that is to make it more accessable to many who need to believe.

Millennia later, Christian theology would give rise to fundamental underpinnings of modern science and the Enlightenment. Far from being invoked only in justification of burnings at the stake or holy crusades, the name of God was at the core of numerous scientific endeavors that would later pave the way for our modern world to take its current shape.

Islam's emphasis on the five daily prayers as one of its Five Pillars motivated a subset of the study of astronomy in the medieval era, some of which would influence later research in the field.

Much like a wall made up of continuously accumulating bricks, modern knowledge did not suddenly spring into existence. It is built upon increments from previous millennia, much of which would not have been possible without religion as a component of the human condition. The notion that we should now crush some of the first bricks to be laid and treat them as a hindrance rather than a step along the way seems contrary to history, logic, and—to borrow a favorite term among New Atheist circles—reason.
I think it is interesting how Catholicism adjusted truth to fit discoveries in science, and did so by overlaying doctrine. I would say it was a smart and successful tactic. Contrast this with how protestants have gone the other way and diverted to a literalist interpretation of the Bible which has oddly even influenced many Catholics and Muslims. I suggest this divorce from science (reality) has led to the existence of climate and vaccine deniers. These tribes have used denialism to help unify their groupthink in ways that religion alone could not do in this modern era. Nothing works to unite people like "us versus them".
 

The Kilted Heathen

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I cannot stand Hitchens and Dawkins (the latter of whom sours Nightwish's "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" for me). They broad-brush religion and theism entirely, mocking and deriding anyone and everyone who believes in a god... yet view everything from and solely criticize Christianity and Islam.

Brilliant elsewhere though they may be, in these debates they are narrow-minded dogmatic anti-theists.
 

Debater Slayer

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I cannot stand Hitchens and Dawkins (the latter of whom sours Nightwish's "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" for me). They broad-brush religion and theism entirely, mocking and deriding anyone and everyone who believes in a god... yet view everything from and solely criticize Christianity and Islam.

Brilliant elsewhere though they may be, in these debates they are narrow-minded dogmatic anti-theists.

Hitchens had the added perk of being a warmonger too. He supported neoconservative military aggression, including the invasion of Iraq.

So much for calling religions "evil" and embracing "reason" instead.
 

PearlSeeker

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I cannot stand Hitchens and Dawkins (the latter of whom sours Nightwish's "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" for me). They broad-brush religion and theism entirely, mocking and deriding anyone and everyone who believes in a god... yet view everything from and solely criticize Christianity and Islam.

Brilliant elsewhere though they may be, in these debates they are narrow-minded dogmatic anti-theists.
This is a parody about so called "new atheism" that shows how dogmatic and close-minded it could be itself.

 
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Rachel Rugelach

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Well said, @Debater Slayer (and others here).

One of the smartest (and kindest) people I have had the privilege of counting among my personal friends is Rabbi Jack Shlachter. He's a brilliant individual, and I got to know him during the time he was in New York working as a physicist at Brookhaven National Laboratory.

There are a lot of brilliant individuals like Rabbi Jack who practice a religion. I have nothing against atheists (I know quite a few atheists who are also brilliant and kind individuals). These "New Atheists" (or anti-theists), however, get tiresome in their constant deriding and denigrating of those of us who practice a religion but are not the sad, stupid, and dangerous people that the anti-theists believe us all to be.

I acknowledge what Stephen King (a favorite author of mine whom I often quote) has said about organized religion being "a very dangerous tool that’s been misused by a lot of people." But King has also said that he chooses to believe in God "because it makes things better. You have a meditation point, a source of strength."

I think that many people misuse a lot of things to the point of those things becoming dangerous tools, and religion is no exception. However, I believe that the fault is in the individual who misuses religion (as well as science, politics, etc.) in order to justify his misuse and abuse of other people.
 

Heyo

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I cannot stand Hitchens and Dawkins (the latter of whom sours Nightwish's "Endless Forms Most Beautiful" for me). They broad-brush religion and theism entirely, mocking and deriding anyone and everyone who believes in a god... yet view everything from and solely criticize Christianity and Islam.

Brilliant elsewhere though they may be, in these debates they are narrow-minded dogmatic anti-theists.
I cannot stand the Pope and the Dalai Lama. They broad-brush reason and atheism entirely, speaking condescendently from their holier than thou position and deriding anyone and everyone who doesn't believe in gods...

The Hitch, Dawkins and the other prominent atheists are advocates for atheism and of course they make their case with the highest demands. It isn't their duty to be timid or see both sides before negotiations have begun. Look at Kent Hovind or Ken Ham (who I could have named instead of the Pope and the Dalai Lama). Are they humble or contemplate the possibility they are wrong?
 

Quintessence

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Ever since I got myself learned on what religion is, I've viewed science as a fundamentally religious pursuit. No surprise I find the sharp words of angstheists more than a bit ironic as a consequence.

Bias disclosure - I pursued the track of a career scientist and did my post-grad because of my religion, so in a fashion all the papers I published in that time could be cast as religion contributing to modern science.
Religious motivations to study science isn't even all that uncommon. Some colleagues I had at the time pursued that path because they wanted to study God's creation and better reveal its glory. For me it's a more direct line as science literally studies the things I worship on the regular.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
I cannot stand the Pope and the Dalai Lama. They broad-brush reason and atheism entirely, speaking condescendently from their holier than thou position and deriding anyone and everyone who doesn't believe in gods...
The Pope, probably. Couldn't really say. However, while what you're trying to do here isn't lost on me, do you have evidence of the Pope and the Dali Lama doing this?

Additionally, why are you treating them (Dawkins and Hitchens) akin to religious leaders?

The Hitch, Dawkins and the other prominent atheists are advocates for atheism and of course they make their case with the highest demands.
They're unnecessarily antagonistic, taking the fight to theism rather than offering rebuttal as a reaction to it. They are anti-theistic, and it reflects well on no one. They are not advocating atheism, they are warmongering for the total annihilation of theism in the broadest of terms, while fallaciously viewing everything through a Christian lens.

Look at Kent Hovind or Ken Ham
What about them? When Ken Ham tried to foolishly debate and prove Creationism against Bill Nye, it was the funniest thing I've seen in a while. And yet while Bill soundly deflated every claim that Ham made, he did so with grace and poise, addressing specific fallacious claims and answering specifically to the stated beliefs. Even when Ham invited him to his big model boat. That same debate would have resulted in a temper-tantrum rant from Dawkins and likely an Islamophobic tirade from Hitchens.
 
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Debater Slayer

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Recently a tornado came through town, destroying a church:

https://www.accuweather.com/en/seve...vivors-shaken-by-houston-area-tornado/1473281

It wasn't a miracle that saved the priests, it was meteorologists and scientists monitoring the storm, making sure the warning went out.

"You saved us!" - priest told scientist, told meteorologist. Yes, scientists "miraculously" saved everyone's lives, warnings issued through phones,radios, tv's worked.

What does this have to do with the OP?
 

RestlessSoul

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Hitchens had the added perk of being a warmonger too. He supported neoconservative military aggression, including the invasion of Iraq.

So much for calling religions "evil" and embracing "reason" instead.


I think Hitchens lost all ideological credibility when he took that stance. It should be understood though, that he was a journalist and polemicist. Everything he wrote was written to entertain and provoke, and not necessarily to be taken at face value.
 

lukethethird

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The Contributions of Religion to Modern Science vs. New Atheism

Science became established in spite of religion which in turn did everything in its power to strangle science when science was young and still in its cradle.

Now that science is well established religion wishes to pretend that it encouraged science from the start.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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Millennia later, Christian theology would give rise to fundamental underpinnings of modern science and the Enlightenment.

That link wasn't convincing:

"In much the same way that the Deity had instituted moral rules, he was now thought to enact laws which governed the natural world. Robert Boyle, the father of modern chemistry and author of the eponymous law, observed that God's creation operates according to fixed laws "which He alone at first Establish'd." God's authorship of the laws of nature guaranteed their universality and unchanging nature. Descartes thus argued that because these laws had their source in an eternal and unchanging God, the laws of nature must themselves be eternal and unchanging."

Where is a god belief required there? Just drop the god references and we have that Boyle observed that nature operates in repeatable ways. In fact inserting a god means the laws aren't immutable, but can change at God's whim tomorrow. Belief in a godless universe requires that there be regular laws in order for galaxies of stars to have had enough time to have cooked element that organized into life and mind. A universe run by a god doesn't need laws.

What are you calling Christian theology here? The scriptures don't support either empiricism or enlightenment values such as reason over faith, guraneed personal rights, and church-state separation. How do you reconcile such claims with comments like these from two extremely influential Christian theologians:
  • "There is another form of temptation, even more fraught with danger. This is the disease of curiosity. It is this which drives us to try and discover the secrets of nature, those secrets which are beyond our understanding, which can avail us nothing and which man should not wish to learn." and "Since God has spoken to us it is no longer necessary for us to think." - St Augustine
  • "People gave ear to an upstart astrologer [Copernicus] who strove to show that the earth revolves, not the heavens or the firmament, the sun and the moon. Whoever wishes to appear clever must devise some new system, which of all systems is of course the very best. This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred scripture tells us [Joshua 10:13] that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth." - Martin Luther
Freedom of and from religion are Enlightenment values. reason and empathy trump received moral values. It's irrelevant that some of the people advancing science were Christian. Their insights did not come from their Bibles. Christianity taught that man wasn't another animal, but a special creation. Copernicus' great insight, which Luther objects to, is that man didn't occupy a special position in the center of the universe. That's a rejection of Christian cosmology, which was consistent with its doctrine that God made our universe for man and with man in mind - not a natural extension of it. Yes, Copernicus was a cleric, but so what? Anybody who learns to compartmentalize their faith can do science.

Newton famously invoked God to correct the orbits of the planets when his mathematics predicted that they should be unstable. His work up to that point could have been generated by any equally gifted atheist, and it is only that work that which is still used today. That's religion's contribution, not the science and mathematics. And this is a nice illustration of why a godless universe needs laws. Fortunately, Laplace came along about a century later with some new mathematics to relieving Newton's god of the need to nudge planets.

Some might enjoy this 40 minute video:

The Theft of Our Values - YouTube "We have been raised to believe that the very ideology that fought against Western values and advancements is actually responsible for them. Stop believing that lie."

Islam's emphasis on the five daily prayers as one of its Five Pillars motivated a subset of the study of astronomy in the medieval era, some of which would influence later research in the field.

And we are to give credit to a belief in a god for this work? Do you think that a god belief necessary for man to want to understand the movements of the cosmos?

Much like a wall made up of continuously accumulating bricks, modern knowledge did not suddenly spring into existence. It is built upon increments from previous millennia, much of which would not have been possible without religion as a component of the human condition.

Are you contending that science and the Enlightenment need to wait for the development of faith-based systems of belief? If so, I disagree. These depended on rejecting Christian doctrine and thoughts like those from Augustine and Luther above.

The notion that we should now crush some of the first bricks to be laid and treat them as a hindrance rather than a step along the way seems contrary to history, logic, and—to borrow a favorite term among New Atheist circles—reason.

I find it very reasonable to be eschew faith-based thinking. Those bricks come from reasoning and eventually empiricism, not scripture, which is fossilized, and which has little use for either.
 

Brian2

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Well said, @Debater Slayer (and others here).

One of the smartest (and kindest) people I have had the privilege of counting among my personal friends is Rabbi Jack Shlachter. He's a brilliant individual, and I got to know him during the time he was in New York working as a physicist at Brookhaven National Laboratory.

There are a lot of brilliant individuals like Rabbi Jack who practice a religion. I have nothing against atheists (I know quite a few atheists who are also brilliant and kind individuals). These "New Atheists" (or anti-theists), however, get tiresome in their constant deriding and denigrating of those of us who practice a religion but are not the sad, stupid, and dangerous people that the anti-theists believe us all to be.

I acknowledge what Stephen King (a favorite author of mine whom I often quote) has said about organized religion being "a very dangerous tool that’s been misused by a lot of people." But King has also said that he chooses to believe in God "because it makes things better. You have a meditation point, a source of strength."

I think that many people misuse a lot of things to the point of those things becoming dangerous tools, and religion is no exception. However, I believe that the fault is in the individual who misuses religion (as well as science, politics, etc.) in order to justify his misuse and abuse of other people.

I can't help being sad and stupid and I'm only dangerous when I get drunk and need to drive to shops to get more to drink.
Some people tell me that climbing a ladder at my age is dangerous, but that has still to be proven.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Recently a tornado came through town, destroying a church:

https://www.accuweather.com/en/seve...vivors-shaken-by-houston-area-tornado/1473281

It wasn't a miracle that saved the priests, it was meteorologists and scientists monitoring the storm, making sure the warning went out.

"You saved us!" - priest told scientist, told meteorologist. Yes, scientists "miraculously" saved everyone's lives, warnings issued through phones,radios, tv's worked.

So all those anti science religious types who refused to listen to the meteorologists were wiped out and the next generation will have a higher percentage of science believers.
And the universe is unfolding as it should.
 
Much like a wall made up of continuously accumulating bricks, modern knowledge did not suddenly spring into existence. It is built upon increments from previous millennia, much of which would not have been possible without religion as a component of the human condition. The notion that we should now crush some of the first bricks to be laid and treat them as a hindrance rather than a step along the way seems contrary to history, logic, and—to borrow a favorite term among New Atheist circles—reason.

One of the greatest impediments to rational thought among anti-theists is the idea that they "see the world as it is" free of biases and ideology.

This is what has been termed a "subtraction theory" of modern secular liberal humanism, that is you arrive at it by subtracting religious beliefs, woo and other 'primitive superstition' and then you arrive at modern science and secular humanism which are self-evident truths. Humanism is the ideology of those who feel they have outgrown ideology and the need for emotionally comforting fictions (does not necessarily apply to all humanists though).

As such they tend to answer the following question "Given it's inevitability and intrinsically progressive nature, what are the factors that have inhibited or slowed down the development of science and the scientific mind?"

This view, which relies heavily on a teleological view of history and the post-Enlightenment Idea of Progress (ironically itself an offshoot of Christian theology), is the view usually presented by those who favour the Conflict Thesis (where religion is the enemy of science) that has been thoroughly rejected by almost all experts but is treated as gospel truth by most "freethinking" anti-theist.

It rests on an assumption that science is something which comes naturally to us and simply requires the absence of constraint in order to emerge. This often aligns with a common perspective that Western Humanistic culture is the universal result of education, reason and progress, and other cultures tend to represent a more 'primitive' phase which has yet to be outgrown. In this case, the removal of obstacles is a core dimension in the development of science, and Christianity, by it's attachment to faith and timeless doctrines, was the key obstacle.

The problem is, unless you take it on faith that your ideology is the natural goal of human development, this is asking the wrong question. Unless you accept human development has a telos, the correct question to ask is "What were the unique and contingent conditions that made possible the emergence and persistence of the modern concept of science?"

As is quite cleat when we look at the diversity of human societies, modern western science was not the inevitable consequence of progress. Both the Idea of Progress and the development of modern science are specific products of a particular culture that required a number of necessary variable to be fulfilled. Seeing as these dimensions seem to have been rare in human societies, the key to understanding the development of science is to understand what were the factors which caused such dimensions to be present.

So the "New atheist"/Rational Humanists" come up with some virgin birth hypothesis where "people like me" suddenly decided to reject Christianity and apply reason and hey presto the Enlightenment, humanism and modern science.

That it is pretty easy to trace the lineage of many of the core ideas of the development of both modern science and Secular Humanism over many centuries from the "Dark Ages" onwards does little to shake their faith, which is unsurprising as it is basically a sacred belief that underpins much of their worldview.
 
Millennia later, Christian theology would give rise to fundamental underpinnings of modern science and the Enlightenment. Far from being invoked only in justification of burnings at the stake or holy crusades, the name of God was at the core of numerous scientific endeavors that would later pave the way for our modern world to take its current shape.

A handful of further examples:

A widespread myth that refuses to die...maintains that consistent opposition of the Christian church to rational thought in general and the natural sciences in particular, throughout the patristic and medieval periods, retarded the development of a viable scientific tradition, thereby delaying the Scientific Revolution and the origins of modern science by more than a millennium.

Historical scholarship of the past half-century demonstrates that the truth is otherwise.

David C Lindberg in the Cambridge companion to science and religion


John Heilbron, no apologist for the Vatican, got it right when he opened his book The Sun in the Church with the following words: “the Roman Catholic Church gave more financial and social support to the study of astronomy for over six centuries, from the recovery of ancient learning during the late Middle Ages into the Enlightenment, than any other, and probably all, other institutions.T”4 Heilbron’s point can be generalized far beyond astronomy. Put succinctly, the medieval period gave birth to the university, which developed with the active support of the papacy. This unusual institution sprang up rather spontaneously around famous masters in towns like Bologna, Paris, and Oxford before 1200. By 1500, about sixty universities were scattered throughout Europe. What is the significance of this development for our myth? About 30 percent of the medieval university curriculum covered subjects and texts concerned with the natural world.5 This was not a trivial development. The proliferation of universities between 1200 and 1500 meant that hundreds of thousands of students—a quarter million in the German universities alone from 1350 on—were exposed to science in the Greco-Arabic tradition. Michael H Shank

Historians have observed that Christian churches were for a crucial millennium leading patrons of natural philosophy and science, in that they supported theorizing, experimentation, observation, exploration, documentation, and publication. Noah J Efron

No account of Catholic involvement with science could be complete without mention of the Jesuits (officially called the Society of Jesus). Formally established in 1540, the society placed such special emphasis on education that by 1625 they had founded nearly 450 colleges in Europe and elsewhere... It is clear from the historical record that the Catholic church has been probably the largest single and longest- term patron of science in history, that many contributors to the Scientific Revolution were themselves Catholic, and that several Catholic institutions and perspectives were key influences upon the rise of modern science. Margaret J Osler

Although they disagree about nuances, today almost all historians agree that Christianity (Catholicism as well as Protestantism) move many early-modern intellectuals to study nature systematically.4 Historians have also found that notions borrowed from Christian belief found their ways into scientific discourse, with glorious re- sults; the very notion that nature is lawful, some scholars argue, was borrowed from Christian theology.5 Christian convictions also affected how nature was studied. For example, in the six- teenth and seventeenth centuries, Augustine’s notion of original sin (which held that Adam’s Fall left humans implacably dam- aged) was embraced by advocates of “experimental natural phi- losophy.” As they saw it, fallen humans lacked the grace to understand the workings of the world through cogitation alone, requiring in their disgraced state painstaking experiment and ob- servation to arrive at knowledge of how nature works (though our knowledge even then could never be certain). In this way, Christian doctrine lent urgency to experiment.6

Historians have also found that changing Christian approaches to interpreting the Bible affected the way nature was studied in crucial ways. For example, Reformation leaders disparaged allegorical readings of Scripture, counseling their congregations to read Holy Writ literally. This approach to the Bible led some scholars to change the way they studied nature, no longer seeking the allegorical meaning of plants and animals and instead seeking what they took to be a more straightforward description of the material world.7 Also, many of those today considered “fore- fathers” of modern science found in Christianity legitimation of their pursuits. René Descartes (1596–1650) boasted of his physics that “my new philosophy is in much better agreement with all the truths of faith than that of Aristotle.”8 Isaac Newton (1642–1727) believed that his system restored the original divine wisdom God had provided to Moses and had no doubt that his Christianity bolstered his physics—and that his physics bolstered his Christi- anity.9 Finally, historians have observed that Christian churches were for a crucial millennium leading patrons of natural philosophy and science, in that they supported theorizing, experimentation, observation, exploration, documentation, and publication. Noah J Efron


Toledo School of Translators - Wikipedia

Raymond of Toledo, Archbishop of Toledo from 1126 to 1151, started the first translation efforts at the library of the Cathedral of Toledo, where he led a team of translators who included Mozarabic Toledans, Jewish scholars, Madrasah teachers, and monks from the Order of Cluny. They translated many works, usually from Arabic, Jewish and Greek into Latin, as Spanish language was not yet developed until the XIII century. The work of these scholars made available very important texts from Arabic and Hebrew philosophers, whom the Archbishop deemed important for an understanding of several classical authors, specially Aristotle.[7] As a result, the library of the cathedral, which had been refitted under Raymond's orders, became a translations center of a scale and importance not matched in the history of western culture.[8]


 
Millennia later, Christian theology would give rise to fundamental underpinnings of modern science and the Enlightenment. Far from being invoked only in justification of burnings at the stake or holy crusades, the name of God was at the core of numerous scientific endeavors that would later pave the way for our modern world to take its current shape.

One of the more interesting arguments I've heard regarding the role of Christianity is explicitly Biblical and relates to the promotion of the experimental method by English empiricists like Francis Bacon. This is not a fact in the same way other contributions are, but I find its not too implausible that it played a role (and those involved explicitly state that it does).

Pre-fall humanity lived in a golden age of abundant knowledge, and post-fall the quest had been to recover as much of this as possible.

The problem was that earlier philosophers had too much faith in human intellect, but this was misplaced as post-fall humans were too flawed in this regard.

(I've spoilered it as otherwise people who aren't interested will have to scroll excessively)

The experimental approach is justified primarily by appeals to the weakness of our sensory and cognitive capacities. For many seventeenth-century English thinkers these weaknesses were understood as consequences of the Fall. Boyle and Locke, for their part, also place stress on the incapacities that necessarily attend the kind of beings that we are. But in both cases, the more important issue is the nature of human capacities rather than the nature of the Deity. And if the idea of a fall away from an originally perfect knowledge begins to decline in importance towards the end of the seventeenth century, it nonetheless played a crucial role by drawing attention to the question of the capacities of human nature in the present world...

One of the first texts that [Francis] Bacon would have had to contend with was the ‘Organon’, a collection of Aristotle’s writings on logic. All undergraduates were expected to become familiar with its contents, and until well into the seventeenth century university statutes prescribed monetary penalties for those guilty of transgressions against Aristotle’s logic.

Bacon’s early resistance to the Aristotelianism he encountered at university and his later ambition to establish new foundations for learning are both evident in the title of what is probably his best known philosophical work: Novum organum – (The New Organon, 1620). At this point it should be unnecessary to labour the fact that Bacon has a conception of natural philosophy as an enterprise devoted to a recovery of Adamic knowledge of nature and dominion over it.

Each of the two sections of the Novum Organum concludes with an injunction to recover the dominion over nature that was lost as a consequence of the Fall. As for the impediments to this recovery, Bacon saw in the long-standing tradition of Aristotelian logic an implicit recognition of the fact that ‘the human intellect left to its own course is not to be trusted’. But Bacon was convinced that the purveyors of logic had systematically misidentified the nature of mental errors and the means by which they were to be corrected. The champions of the old Organon ‘have given the first place to Logic, supposing that the surest helps to the sciences were to be found in that’. In Bacon’s judgement, ‘the remedy is altogether too weak for the disease’. The impotence of logic in the face of the human propensity for error could be attributed to two factors. First, the logicians had simply underestimated the extent of the problem they were seeking to rectify.154 ‘The root cause of nearly all evils in the sciences’, Bacon wrote, is that ‘we falsely admire and extol the powers of the human mind.’ As a consequence, ‘we neglect to seek for its true helps’.155 Second, not realising that error stems from multiple failures of the human mind, they had prescribed a single generic remedy.156

In order to arrive at a true interpretation of nature, Bacon insists, we need to begin with an understanding of human faculties and their limitations. In the Novum Organum, then, Bacon identifies the senses, memory, and reason as the faculties involved in knowledge, and seeks specific ‘ministrations’ or ‘helps’ to heal their inherent infirmities.157 These infirmities, which for Bacon ‘have their foundation in human nature itself’, are referred to as ‘the idols of the tribe’, the first category of four ‘idols of the mind’ to which Bacon attributes the errors of human knowledge.158 For Bacon, the deficiencies of the senses provide the first occasion for error: ‘By far the greatest hindrance and aberration of the human understanding proceeds from the dullness, incompetency, and deceptions of the senses.’159The senses, which are ‘infirm and erring’, fail us in two ways. Sometimes they provide no information; sometimes they provide false information...

Bacon believed that a better ‘help’ for the senses was experimentation: ‘For the subtlety of experiments is far greater than that of the sense itself, even when assisted by exquisite instruments.’" Peter Harrison - The Fall of Man and the foundations of modern science
 
Science became established in spite of religion which in turn did everything in its power to strangle science when science was young and still in its cradle.

It's possible you are right, or it is possible that the consensus of scholarly experts who have devoted decades to studying the actual evidence are right.

In your view, when a non-expert with minimal knowledge of a topic strongly asserts an opinion that just happens to chime with their ideological and emotional prejudices, yet almost all experts say something very different, who tends to be correct?
 
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