I liked the yellow and blue in the abbey, and the blue on the horses pulling the coach (golden yellow) - given that such is normally red apparently. Now which flag has blue and yellow? 
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The Coronation of Christian King Charles III
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anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
I liked the yellow and blue in the abbey, and the blue on the horses pulling the coach (golden yellow) - given that such is normally red apparently. Now which flag has blue and yellow?
Sweden
Catholics are forbidden from becoming the monarch. AFAIK, other religions and atheists aren't.
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It would be quite fun to watch an atheist as defender of the faith
PruePhillip
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Yeah, Spain, France, Germany, Russia and China all abolished their monarchies. The result from Spain was civil war; the result from France was violent revolution and the rise of Napoleon; the result for Germany was the Kaiser and Hitler and two 'world wars', the result for Russia was Bolsheviks and Stalin and the result for China was Mao. About 150,000,000 people died. Institutions and culture are not necessarily anachronistic - they serve a purpose. We have pulled down fences without understanding why our ancestors built them.
And of course the UK has never had a civil wars and revolutions did they?
And i think you need to revise your history. Cartainly the revolutions in France and Russia saw the end of monarchy, they were not the result of abolition but resulted in the abolition of corrupt monarchy
And the second world war was the result of the insult handed to Germany for losing the ww1.
I heard this story covered on npr and they stated the coronation will cost the taxpayers 100 million pounds, most of it for security. That's is an absurd amount of money for the sake of tradition, and this was the scaled down option. This might get tourist money, but I have to wonder if it is emough to cover 100 million.
How many heirs are there, just the two boys? Harry is out, so who it the other? Would he want to carry on this tradition? I would think at some point this will be less and less significant as England has to survive Brexit and it's own economy woes.
Speaking of history I watched a documentary about the royal family and there is some doubt about the current family being legitimate heirs. The film makers found a fellow somewhere in the world (I dont think it was England) of who could be the actual King of England. They tracked him down and he was amused, quite a character actually. I wonder if DNA could resolve the question.
Elihoenai
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I watched whole Coronation on TV from 8am this morning. I would have attended the local Coronation Community Party if it was not on the Sabbath Day. There might be stricter observers of the Sabbath on these Forums that believe watching the Coronation would be for them breaking the Sabbath. Are there any such members on these Forums? Some Ultra Orthodox Jews don't switch on the light on the Sabbath.My participation will be in solely watching the affair on TV. I'm against any monarchy on principle, and especially this one given that I live in the UK, and I think that the dissolution of the monarchy here would be better for the country overall. I see such things just as remnants of our bloody past more than much else. Hence I won't be swearing any oaths - at least not any appropriate ones.
The Coronation is a Devoted Christian Religious Ceremony. For those that watched the Coronation, what you Witnessed was High Church.
High church
The term high church refers to beliefs and practices of Christian ecclesiology, liturgy, and theology that emphasize "ritual, priestly authority, [and] sacraments".[1] Although used in connection with various Christian traditions, the term originated in and has been principally associated with the Anglican tradition, where it describes churches using a number of ritual practices associated in the popular mind with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
High church - Wikipedia
You could sent them a pint and cover it either way.
Well I did watch it all too - given I tend to see it as my duty to watch such things, but only on TV. Glad it all went as well as it could, even if I would prefer this to be the last monarch for the UK.I watched whole Coronation on TV from 8am this morning. I would have attended the local Coronation Community Party if it was not on the Sabbath Day. There might be stricter observers of the Sabbath on these Forums that believe watching the Coronation would be for them breaking the Sabbath. Are there any such members on these Forums? Some Ultra Orthodox Jews don't switch on the light on the Sabbath.
The Coronation is a Devoted Christian Religious Ceremony. For those that watched the Coronation, what you Witnessed was High Church.
High church
The term high church refers to beliefs and practices of Christian ecclesiology, liturgy, and theology that emphasize "ritual, priestly authority, [and] sacraments".[1] Although used in connection with various Christian traditions, the term originated in and has been principally associated with the Anglican tradition, where it describes churches using a number of ritual practices associated in the popular mind with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
High church - Wikipedia
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exchemist
Veteran Member
Germany? Surely there was never a king of Germany? Germany wasn't even a nation state until the mid c.19th. When it did finally unify, that's when they got the Kaiser. So the Kaiser was their first king, in effect.
I doubt that Sweden needs our support at the moment though.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Yes it was interesting that they had an Anglican consecration and communion.I watched whole Coronation on TV from 8am this morning. I would have attended the local Coronation Community Party if it was not on the Sabbath Day. There might be stricter observers of the Sabbath on these Forums that believe watching the Coronation would be for them breaking the Sabbath. Are there any such members on these Forums? Some Ultra Orthodox Jews don't switch on the light on the Sabbath.
The Coronation is a Devoted Christian Religious Ceremony. For those that watched the Coronation, what you Witnessed was High Church.
High church
The term high church refers to beliefs and practices of Christian ecclesiology, liturgy, and theology that emphasize "ritual, priestly authority, [and] sacraments".[1] Although used in connection with various Christian traditions, the term originated in and has been principally associated with the Anglican tradition, where it describes churches using a number of ritual practices associated in the popular mind with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.
High church - Wikipedia
I thought they didn't do a bad job of inclusion of other Christian denominations and other religions, though. I understand Charles arranged for the Chief Rabbi to stay at St. James's Palace so he could walk to the Abbey, it being Saturday.
I thought the choice of music was varied and generally in pretty good taste, apart from that Diana Ross tribute act, which felt out of place to me. A nice touch to have the Greek Orthodox chant, as a remembrance of his father.
I was pleased they chose Purcell's hymn tune "Westminster Abbey" (Christ is made the sure foundation), which is one of my favourites. Purcell was the Abbey organist. I've sung that hymn, in the Abbey, in Latin, when I was a schoolboy: Angularis fundamentum lapis Christus missus est: Angularis Fundamentum. Interesting that the metre of Purcell's tune fits the Latin as well as the English words. Perhaps they sang it in Latin in Purcell's day too, even though the Abbey was Anglican by that time.
anna.
colors your eyes with what's not there
I doubt that Sweden needs our support at the moment though.
While I fully support Ukraine, I don't think the coronation colors are meant for that purpose. Queen Elizabeth's royal standard was blue and yellow, as were the carpets at her coronation.
Possibly. I'm sure King Charles would make the gesture towards Ukraine though.
Apostle John
“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
I thought the Coronation was a veritable Christian spectacle. I quite liked it from a Christian point of view.1 Kings 1:34-45
Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king.
And all the people rejoiced and said:
God save the King! Long live the King! God save the King!
May the King live for ever. Amen. Hallelujah.
On 6 May 2023 Christian King Charles III will be Crowned in a Coronation Ceremony symbolising Christian Spiritual and Temporal Powers.
The last Coronation we had in England was almost 70 years ago with the Crowning of Christian Queen Elizabeth II.
Zadok the Priest
What are you thoughts on the Coronation? Do you think King Charles III has Real Christian Spiritual and Temporal Powers? Do you believe that King Charles III is a practising Christian? Is the British Crown Christian and not necessarily the Monarch that sits on the Throne? Given that British King is head of the Church of England, does this mean that the King must be a Christian?
PruePhillip
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Queen Victoria's son Edward VII was king with German background. So too was Queen Victoria, the monarch called the 'grandmother of Europe' - so long as these monarchs ruled there would be fewer wars in Europe. Kaiser was the grandson of Victoria,
PruePhillip
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Nontheless, I doubt Europe would have suffered the calamities it did had it not abolished monarchies.
And catagorically, had USA remained in the Commonwealth there would not be the massive slave trade to the southern states, the Civil War or World War 1 and 2.
On his podcast, Dan Carlin makes a pretty convincing argument that WWI might have been avoidable if diplomatic skill had been a factor at all in the selection of the heads of the states involved.