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the day after Donald Trump was made a living martyr

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Yesterday, Donald Trump was made a living martyr after President Biden had said Trump should be put in a bullseye, which I imagine will lead to Trump, MAGAs and Republicans and even some Democrats demanding the FBI and Congress investigate President Biden for hiring the shooter, and President Biden will deny it, and maybe will think to say he got the bullseye idea from Trump’s Supreme Court, and his statement was an official act as president. Trump said God alone is why he was not killed, which is correct, but Trump has no clue why.

Trump experienced what he had sown with plenty of help from his MAGA hordes and lots of Republicans and 6 Christian-right Supreme Court Justices. The shooter missed for some reason. Perhaps God or an angel made him miss. Perhaps Lucifer made him miss. Perhaps the shooter simply did not have time to set up properly, relax, breathe out and squeeze off a shot. The shooter was killed, sowing what he had reaped, and he made Trump a living martyr and very well got him elected in November, which I’m quite sure will please Lucifer, as will it please Lucifer if Joe Biden gets reelected.

Two criminals is the best America has to offer. No way Jesus and God, or Allah, like Biden helping Israel and Hamas kill, maim, displace and/or starve every civilian in Gaza. Jesus was boots on the ground, day after day. A demon has infiltrated Biden and Trump, and their followers. Their religious claims about themselves do not change that. Their religious training should have made them run from Biden and Trump, but instead their religious beliefs caused them to be certain God was on their side.

An angel helps Biden do poorly in the debate against Trump, and maybe the Dems will choose a different candidate. Same angel helps Biden call the Ukraine President Putin and Kamala Harris Trump, for same reason. God did not want Trump killed and made a martyr, and where would Lucifer find another Trump anytime soon? Who knows what might happen between now and Election Day? We can pretty much count on civil strife if Trump does not win. America claiming to be one nation under God is a very good way to invite God to say, “Oh yeah, well let’s see about that.”

Consider:

Revelation 13:3

New International Version​


One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.​

 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
By Nicole Sganga, Pat Milton
Updated on: July 14, 2024 / 11:53 AM EDT / CBS News

very interesting EXCERPTS

The FBI is leading the investigation into the shooting.

"We're pointing at the guy," said the witness, named Greg, adding, "he had a rifle — you could literally see him with a rifle." He told the BBC that he and others told the police and were pointing him out to U.S. Secret Service agents, and he estimated that the man was on the roof for "three or four minutes" before shots were heard A man who was at the rally said that soon after Trump started speaking, he saw a man "bear crawling" up the building.
 
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PureX

Veteran Member
Lots of people had rifles there yesterday. And they didn't all know who each other were. So telling one of them that another of them had a rifle wasn't necessarily going to set off any alarms.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
For real? You know this how? I ask, because I cannot imagine even Trump, much less local law enforcement, the F.B.I and the Secret Service , wanted or allowed rifles in the crowd.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Lots of people had rifles there yesterday. And they didn't all know who each other were. So telling one of them that another of them had a rifle wasn't necessarily going to set off any alarms.
Where? Show the pictures of that bull**** your putting out like usual.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Yesterday, Donald Trump was made a living martyr after President Biden had said Trump should be put in a bullseye, which I imagine will lead to Trump, MAGAs and Republicans and even some Democrats demanding the FBI and Congress investigate President Biden for hiring the shooter, and President Biden will deny it, and maybe will think to say he got the bullseye idea from Trump’s Supreme Court, and his statement was an official act as president. Trump said God alone is why he was not killed, which is correct, but Trump has no clue why.

Trump experienced what he had sown with plenty of help from his MAGA hordes and lots of Republicans and 6 Christian-right Supreme Court Justices. The shooter missed for some reason. Perhaps God or an angel made him miss. Perhaps Lucifer made him miss. Perhaps the shooter simply did not have time to set up properly, relax, breathe out and squeeze off a shot. The shooter was killed, sowing what he had reaped, and he made Trump a living martyr and very well got him elected in November, which I’m quite sure will please Lucifer, as will it please Lucifer if Joe Biden gets reelected.

Two criminals is the best America has to offer. No way Jesus and God, or Allah, like Biden helping Israel and Hamas kill, maim, displace and/or starve every civilian in Gaza. Jesus was boots on the ground, day after day. A demon has infiltrated Biden and Trump, and their followers. Their religious claims about themselves do not change that. Their religious training should have made them run from Biden and Trump, but instead their religious beliefs caused them to be certain God was on their side.

An angel helps Biden do poorly in the debate against Trump, and maybe the Dems will choose a different candidate. Same angel helps Biden call the Ukraine President Putin and Kamala Harris Trump, for same reason. God did not want Trump killed and made a martyr, and where would Lucifer find another Trump anytime soon? Who knows what might happen between now and Election Day? We can pretty much count on civil strife if Trump does not win. America claiming to be one nation under God is a very good way to invite God to say, “Oh yeah, well let’s see about that.”

Consider:
By Nicole Sganga, Pat Milton
Updated on: July 14, 2024 / 11:53 AM EDT / CBS News

very interesting EXCERPTS

The FBI is leading the investigation into the shooting.

"We're pointing at the guy," said the witness, named Greg, adding, "he had a rifle — you could literally see him with a rifle." He told the BBC that he and others told the police and were pointing him out to U.S. Secret Service agents, and he estimated that the man was on the roof for "three or four minutes" before shots were heard A man who was at the rally said that soon after Trump started speaking, he saw a man "bear crawling" up the building.
If that is accurate, why’d the Secret Service not get the shooter then, instead of waiting until he started shooting? Did the Secret Service choose to give the shooter a chance, hoping he would take out Trump? Well? Can someone come up with any other reason why the Secret Service didn’t get after the shooter after being told where he was before he got to the roof and set up to shoot? Do ya think maybe an angel intervened and messed with the shooter, because God didn’t want Trump killed, because that is not God’s way?
Consider this from an AP article:
"The roof where Crooks lay was less than 150 meters (164 yards) from where Trump was speaking, a distance from which a decent marksman could reasonably hit a human-sized target. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which U.S. Army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M-16 rifle."
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Ground control to Major Tom, we have an issue in the latrine. I think it might be a very large minty disc that's clogging up the pipes. Ones missing from one of the urinals, but we're gonna need some backup on this one. Ha ha ...

Oh, nevermind it went down.

No further outbounds needed for now.

My apologies ....
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Some of the posts in this thread already are so disingenuous it's disgusting. Since the debate, which Biden clearly flubbed, all media attention has been on him, and none on Trump, who has a lengthy record of gaffe's, mistatements, getting people's names wrong, and so on.

And that's not fair. There are two imperfect people running in this campaign, and to focus on only one of them is not providing the American people with the information they need to make a decision. It is, not to mis-state it, keeping the bull's-eye firmly on President Biden, and that's a colloquialism that I'm willing to bet the posters here know well, but won't admit in this post.

Biden's remark, to put Trump in the bull's-eye, refers to that. And I think that any reasonable, unbiased person would see that.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Some of the posts in this thread already are so disingenuous it's disgusting. Since the debate, which Biden clearly flubbed, all media attention has been on him, and none on Trump, who has a lengthy record of gaffe's, mistatements, getting people's names wrong, and so on.

And that's not fair. There are two imperfect people running in this campaign, and to focus on only one of them is not providing the American people with the information they need to make a decision. It is, not to mis-state it, keeping the bull's-eye firmly on President Biden, and that's a colloquialism that I'm willing to bet the posters here know well, but won't admit in this post.

Biden's remark, to put Trump in the bull's-eye, refers to that. And I think that any reasonable, unbiased person would see that.
Obviously it refers to that just as much as it is with the remark, " Dictator on day one.". Right?

I don't think so. But nice try Charlie.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
I wore a cape on Halloween once or twice. I think I may have worn one on Christmas day once, too. It may or may not have been a red one. No, it was my binky kid blanket or one like it. What color is superman's cape?

No matter, kryptonite ...

3 doors down I see a potential understanding, but this does not imply it to be warranted. Anyway, apparently this nation is having some difficulty deciding which side to choose or stand on, so if you're an American I would suggest standing as an American.

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I'm unaffiliated with your lingo bit, but beyond being biased between a better better and a better better better better, the choice is an easy one.

Smile, we had a rough couple days.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
About the secret service and the question presented, I'll assume they were more concerned about Trump and their specific job protocol to protect Trump. I've read the same reports and understand the implication being made, but I will presume this would have been in the area and jurisdiction of local police and State appointed security. I'm suggesting that distractions, distract from detail and I would assume other security detail was trusted enough for secret service to stay on post. It was a close call and I'm fairly sure security should be up to par if not exceeding the expected at these things anyway. Political violence has become a growing concern in this nation, both sides.

Question: What is it about the felony counts against Trump and an appeal being made to deny him security? I don't care if you like him or don't. I understand his position enough to understand that he has no valid reason to stand down from pursuing reelection. One killed, 2 critically injured civilians and Trump's secret service is on the hotseat for following protocol? I don't get it.

Biden has taken a pause from his campaign efforts and outbound communications, and I don't blame him.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
About the secret service and the question presented, I'll assume they were more concerned about Trump and their specific job protocol to protect Trump. I've read the same reports and understand the implication being made, but I will presume this would have been in the area and jurisdiction of local police and State appointed security. I'm suggesting that distractions, distract from detail and I would assume other security detail was trusted enough for secret service to stay on post. It was a close call and I'm fairly sure security should be up to par if not exceeding the expected at these things anyway. Political violence has become a growing concern in this nation, both sides.

Question: What is it about the felony counts against Trump and an appeal being made to deny him security? I don't care if you like him or don't. I understand his position enough to understand that he has no valid reason to stand down from pursuing reelection. One killed, 2 critically injured civilians and Trump's secret service is on the hotseat for following protocol? I don't get it.

Biden has taken a pause from his campaign efforts and outbound communications, and I don't blame him.
Yet Trump is going full steam ahead. Its pretty clear who's the better braver and more capable president who can handle danger.


 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
The founding fathers were just a bunch of old guys with wigs anyway. Of course, this is a common view of some of our younger generations, albeit not one shared by me. But, I'm not hardly counted as a young one anymore, being just post prime n all.

I like this one

 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
About the secret service and the question presented, I'll assume they were more concerned about Trump and their specific job protocol to protect Trump. I've read the same reports and understand the implication being made, but I will presume this would have been in the area and jurisdiction of local police and State appointed security. I'm suggesting that distractions, distract from detail and I would assume other security detail was trusted enough for secret service to stay on post. It was a close call and I'm fairly sure security should be up to par if not exceeding the expected at these things anyway. Political violence has become a growing concern in this nation, both sides.

Question: What is it about the felony counts against Trump and an appeal being made to deny him security? I don't care if you like him or don't. I understand his position enough to understand that he has no valid reason to stand down from pursuing reelection. One killed, 2 critically injured civilians and Trump's secret service is on the hotseat for following protocol? I don't get it.

Biden has taken a pause from his campaign efforts and outbound communications, and I don't blame him.


I clerked for a US District Judge, who presided over every federal criminal prosecution in his court’s jurisdiction. During that time, I sat in on many discussions in his chambers between him, federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, and I sat in on many discussions with F.B.I and US Treasury Department Alcohol, Tobacco and Tax agents.

It is inconceivable to me that Secret Services assigned to Trump, who worked for the US Treasury Department, ignored reports from the crowd of a man seen with a rifle climbing a building 150 meters from where Trump would speak. That simply does not compute under any argument you or anyone might present.

Trump has had Secret Service protection since he left the White House, which every former president had.

There is another scenario. A demon distracted the Secret Service agents, because the demon knew an angel would interfere with the shooter, or the demon would interfere with the shooter, and either way Trump would be spared and become a living martyr and gain a lot of sympathy from voters on the fence.

Based on what I have learned in news reports about the young shooter, President Biden had nothing to do with it, and he did what should be done, which was call Trump and wish him well, and go on TV and tell America this is very wrong, it is not what America is or needs.

But, alas, this is what America is, and Donald Trump is the main reason, because he organized theJanuary 6, 2021 coup attempt, which failed, and he has yet to admit he lost and during the recent debate he blamed Nancy Pelsi for not agreeing to his suggestion that 10,000 national guardsmen be at the Capitol to protect Trump and the mob he had summoned to Washington, D.C. to fight like hell, he told them, and In the next cya breath, he said for them to be peaceful, yet he was fully in control of the mob, evidenced by when he finally went on TV and told them to stand down and go home, they obeyed him. And he has talked of being dictator from day one, and of getting even, seeking retribution.

I talk frequently with Republicans and MAGAs, who are fully behind Trump, no matter what. They view the Democrats as agents of the Devil and violence is okay, if it is needed to take America back from the Democrats. When I tell them Jesus would not agree with them, they look at me like I am daft, or work for the Devil. I get much the same from many Democrats.

Consider the young shooter. He was a registered Republican, who donated $15 dollars to Joe Biden’s PAC the day Biden was sworn into office, January 20, 2021. From that, I can easily think the shooter was deeply disturbed by the January 6 coup attempt, and that is what motivated him to try to kill Donald Trump with the NRA’s favorite hunting rifle, the M-15, which the young shooter’s father bought about 6 months ago.

In my opinion, Trump should have been impeached by Congress and tried and convicted in federal court, and hung.

In my opinion, Biden should be tired and convicted in federal court, and hung for helping Israel and Hamas destroy Gaza.

It looks to me that God doesn’t want either man in the White House, because they are criminals and they are infiltrated by a demon, as are their supporters by association.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
I clerked for a US District Judge, who presided over every federal criminal prosecution in his court’s jurisdiction. During that time, I sat in on many discussions in his chambers between him, federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, and I sat in on many discussions with F.B.I and US Treasury Department Alcohol, Tobacco and Tax agents.

It is inconceivable to me that Secret Services assigned to Trump, who worked for the US Treasury Department, ignored reports from the crowd of a man seen with a rifle climbing a building 150 meters from where Trump would speak. That simply does not compute under any argument you or anyone might present.

Trump has had Secret Service protection since he left the White House, which every former president had.

There is another scenario. A demon distracted the Secret Service agents, because the demon knew an angel would interfere with the shooter, or the demon would interfere with the shooter, and either way Trump would be spared and become a living martyr and gain a lot of sympathy from voters on the fence.

Based on what I have learned in news reports about the young shooter, President Biden had nothing to do with it, and he did what should be done, which was call Trump and wish him well, and go on TV and tell America this is very wrong, it is not what America is or needs.

But, alas, this is what America is, and Donald Trump is the main reason, because he organized theJanuary 6, 2021 coup attempt, which failed, and he has yet to admit he lost and during the recent debate he blamed Nancy Pelsi for not agreeing to his suggestion that 10,000 national guardsmen be at the Capitol to protect Trump and the mob he had summoned to Washington, D.C. to fight like hell, he told them, and In the next cya breath, he said for them to be peaceful, yet he was fully in control of the mob, evidenced by when he finally went on TV and told them to stand down and go home, they obeyed him. And he has talked of being dictator from day one, and of getting even, seeking retribution.

I talk frequently with Republicans and MAGAs, who are fully behind Trump, no matter what. They view the Democrats as agents of the Devil and violence is okay, if it is needed to take America back from the Democrats. When I tell them Jesus would not agree with them, they look at me like I am daft, or work for the Devil. I get much the same from many Democrats.

Consider the young shooter. He was a registered Republican, who donated $15 dollars to Joe Biden’s PAC the day Biden was sworn into office, January 20, 2021. From that, I can easily think the shooter was deeply disturbed by the January 6 coup attempt, and that is what motivated him to try to kill Donald Trump with the NRA’s favorite hunting rifle, the M-15, which the young shooter’s father bought about 6 months ago.

In my opinion, Trump should have been impeached by Congress and tried and convicted in federal court, and hung.

In my opinion, Biden should be tired and convicted in federal court, and hung for helping Israel and Hamas destroy Gaza.

It looks to me that God doesn’t want either man in the White House, because they are criminals and they are infiltrated by a demon, as are their supporters by association.

Remote viewing intervention and/or demon infiltration (ha!) may well be the case, but most are experiencing something similar, and this isn't isolated to the United States. While you may well be correct in your assessment of the event, my statement stands on merit and based on several factors, one of which is the appeal to deny Trump ample security, as well as defined protocol. I won't dismiss distraction, nor should I, if only for the ongoing efforts to distract the American people from the larger threat we're facing as a nation, which appears to be an effort to take over ...as you so eloquently suggested. The source? I couldn't call it and wouldn't if I could. With that stated, you bring up Lucifer and the Revelation as a proof source suggesting Trump to be an Anti-Christ. The only anti Christ's I'm aware of are the dishonest and those who effort to deceive, which is a very far reaching and common trait in our world, even among the worlds citizens. I'm suggesting that it's not only expected, but present and has been for like ever and pointing at Trump as if Trump is the anti Christ is one of, if not the most ludicrous views I've ever heard in my entire life. Even more so than the demon reference that made me (ha!) laugh. Yes, people may identify as a certain type, but people are still people, whether privy to attributes and ability or not.

I mean no disrespect, but this has got to end with truth favored over the BS.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Remote viewing intervention and/or demon infiltration (ha!) may well be the case, but most are experiencing something similar, and this isn't isolated to the United States. While you may well be correct in your assessment of the event, my statement stands on merit and based on several factors, one of which is the appeal to deny Trump ample security, as well as defined protocol. I won't dismiss distraction, nor should I, if only for the ongoing efforts to distract the American people from the larger threat we're facing as a nation, which appears to be an effort to take over ...as you so eloquently suggested. The source? I couldn't call it and wouldn't if I could. With that stated, you bring up Lucifer and the Revelation as a proof source suggesting Trump to be an Anti-Christ. The only anti Christ's I'm aware of are the dishonest and those who effort to deceive, which is a very far reaching and common trait in our world, even among the worlds citizens. I'm suggesting that it's not only expected, but present and has been for like ever and pointing at Trump as if Trump is the anti Christ is one of, if not the most ludicrous views I've ever heard in my entire life. Even more so than the demon reference that made me (ha!) laugh. Yes, people may identify as a certain type, but people are still people, whether privy to attributes and ability or not.

I mean no disrespect, but this has got to end with truth favored over the BS.
Heh, I agree, truth must prevail over bull ****, but in America bull **** rreigns supreme, evidenced by how many people support Trump, the bull****ter in chief, and Joe Biden, who never will come clean about how he helped Hunter get rich of Ukraine or his deal with Lucifer in supporting Israel in Hamas, for if Biden had cut Israel lose, he whould would lose the election this year in a landslide.

Turmp had plenty of Secret Service protection at the Pennsylvania Turmp rally, but the Secret Service agents blew it, based on the news reports you and I both read. So, either the Secret Service agents were incompetent, or they wanted Trump shot, or they were distracted by a demon

Demons are very real, I deal with them ongoing in various situations that cross my path or I venture to cross. This is a religionforum.com’s platform, thus discussion of God, angels, demons is appropriate and necessary.
 

McBell

Unbound
Since the first assassin is now dead, if a second assassin surfaces , then it increases the likelihood this is something being planned by somebody and not random.
Do you think this assassination attempt was not planned?
That is was a spur of the moment decision to shoot at Trump?
And if so, what do you base that on?
 

McBell

Unbound
Obviously it refers to that just as much as it is with the remark, " Dictator on day one.". Right?

I don't think so. But nice try Charlie.
Remember back in 2016 when all the Trump supporters were all gung ho about "Trump says what he means and means what he says and he is not afraid to say it!"

That is...
Until he said some one should shoot his opponent...

Then the Trump supporters were falling all over each other with various types of "He Didn't Mean It!!"
 
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