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the day after Donald Trump was made a living martyr

PureX

Veteran Member
I agree with you again about Trump, but as we learned in 2016, and on and after January 6, and we are learning now, thanks to Joe Biden idiotic remark, that Trump and his MAGA base and the Republicans who know what Trump is but go along with it anyway, Trump very well will win in November. But that has nothing to do with Biden’s fitness to be president. He is not fit to be president, and I hope the Democrats will dump him, if he does not dump himself, which is what should happen.
Biden's fitness doesn't bother me in the least. If his health causes him to have to step down, the Vice President and the administration will remain intact, and they have been doing a good job so far in spite of the insanity of the republicans and the media. Biden is not a lone wolf, like Trump. He comes with a whole administration of reasonable professionals. And not some cult of insane sycophants.

Most American see this, and understand why it's important to keep them there regardless of Biden's health. And let's be honest, Trump is far more sick in the head than Biden is.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Biden's fitness doesn't bother me in the least. If his health causes him to have to step down, the Vice President and the administration will remain intact, and they have been doing a good job so far in spite of the insanity of the republicans and the media. Biden is not a lone wolf, like Trump. He comes with a whole administration of reasonable professionals. And not some cult of insane sycophants.

Most American see this, and understand why it's important to keep them there regardless of Biden's health. And let's be honest, Trump is far more sick in the head than Biden is.
Again, I agree with you about Trump. Unfortunately, Biden has outed his fitness before every American, and there is nothing Biden’s handlers can do about that now but make it more obvious Biden is not in charge of even himself. The horse got out of the barn during the debate. The barn door got nailed shut when Biden called the guy running Ukraine, Putin, and Kamala Harris, Trump. When Biden said a bullseye should be put on Trump, his handlers and supporters should have stopped breathing, in shock. Biden took Trump's Supreme Court Justices at their rword, official presidential acts have immunity, including ordering someone to be executed, Trump's lawyers told the Supreme Court.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I agree with you again about Trump, but as we learned in 2016, and on and after January 6, and we are learning now, thanks to Joe Biden idiotic remark, that Trump and his MAGA base and the Republicans who know what Trump is but go along with it anyway, Trump very well will win in November. But that has nothing to do with Biden’s fitness to be president. He is not fit to be president, and I hope the Democrats will dump him, if he does not dump himself, which is what should happen.
While Biden is unfit to be President, so is Trump.
He committed treason by attempting a coup in 2020.
This makes him by far the least qualified person ever
to run for office. Same goes for Vance, who said he'd
have over-turned it, had he been VP.
We should not have an Imperial Presidency. At least
Biden honors the constitutional process of election.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
While Biden is unfit to be President, so is Trump.
He committed treason by attempting a coup in 2020.
This makes him by far the least qualified person ever
to run for office. Same goes for Vance, who said he'd
have over-turned it, had he been VP.
We should not have an Imperial Presidency. At least
Biden honors the constitutional process of election.
I completely agree with you about Trump and Vance. Unfortunately, Biden letting the public know Trump should be put in a. bullseye seems pretty imperial and screw the Constitution to me, and it looks like the shooter took Biden to heart, and now Trump’s a martyr and Biden is lying hje made a mistake saying Turmp should be put in a bullseye, abut that horse is way out of the barn and gone now.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I completely agree with you about Trump and Vance. Unfortunately, Biden letting the public know Trump should be put in a. bullseye seems pretty imperial and screw the Constitution to me....
It's a mistake to take a metaphor literally.
But consider that Trump supporters did intend to
hang Mike Pence because he honored the Constitution
by refusing to over-turn the election.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
While Biden is unfit to be President, so is Trump.
He committed treason by attempting a coup in 2020.
This makes him by far the least qualified person ever
to run for office. Same goes for Vance, who said he'd
have over-turned it, had he been VP.
We should not have an Imperial Presidency. At least
Biden honors the constitutional process of election.
Biden does that, and if Trump loses this time, which seems unlikely now, unless he dies or is incapacitated for some reason, he will fight it in every way he can, and no-one in his way will be safe from his base.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I agree with you, but we are greatly outnumbered, perhaps so greatly outnumbered that Trump will be the next U.S. president because the shooter took Joe Biden to heart.
Biden made that speech where he mentioned Trump is in the "bullseye" at a private event, to a room full of his rich donors. We only know he said it now, because it was recently released.

So do you believe that the kid who shot Trump was one of the rich donors Biden was making the speech to?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Biden does that, and if Trump loses this time, which seems unlikely now, unless he dies or is incapacitated for some reason, he will fight it in every way he can, and no-one in his way will be safe from his base.
November is years away.
A lot can happen before the election.
Examples....
Who could've predicted Trump being slightly injured by an assassin?
Who could've predicted Trump would pick a Veep who believes
Trump is "America's Hitler"?

What other potentially game changing events await us, eh.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
November is years away.
A lot can happen before the election.
Examples....
Who could've predicted Trump being slightly injured by an assassin?
Who could've predicted Trump would pick a Veep who believes
Trump is "America's Hitler"?

What other potentially game changing events await us, eh.
I agree with you, and I expect to see more interesting events, but will the people that mater see them?
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I clerked for a US District Judge, who presided over every federal criminal prosecution in his court’s jurisdiction. During that time, I sat in on many discussions in his chambers between him, federal prosecutors and defense lawyers, and I sat in on many discussions with F.B.I and US Treasury Department Alcohol, Tobacco and Tax agents.

It is inconceivable to me that Secret Services assigned to Trump, who worked for the US Treasury Department, ignored reports from the crowd of a man seen with a rifle climbing a building 150 meters from where Trump would speak. That simply does not compute under any argument you or anyone might present.

Trump has had Secret Service protection since he left the White House, which every former president had.

There is another scenario. A demon distracted the Secret Service agents, because the demon knew an angel would interfere with the shooter, or the demon would interfere with the shooter, and either way Trump would be spared and become a living martyr and gain a lot of sympathy from voters on the fence.

Based on what I have learned in news reports about the young shooter, President Biden had nothing to do with it, and he did what should be done, which was call Trump and wish him well, and go on TV and tell America this is very wrong, it is not what America is or needs.

But, alas, this is what America is, and Donald Trump is the main reason, because he organized theJanuary 6, 2021 coup attempt, which failed, and he has yet to admit he lost and during the recent debate he blamed Nancy Pelsi for not agreeing to his suggestion that 10,000 national guardsmen be at the Capitol to protect Trump and the mob he had summoned to Washington, D.C. to fight like hell, he told them, and In the next cya breath, he said for them to be peaceful, yet he was fully in control of the mob, evidenced by when he finally went on TV and told them to stand down and go home, they obeyed him. And he has talked of being dictator from day one, and of getting even, seeking retribution.

I talk frequently with Republicans and MAGAs, who are fully behind Trump, no matter what. They view the Democrats as agents of the Devil and violence is okay, if it is needed to take America back from the Democrats. When I tell them Jesus would not agree with them, they look at me like I am daft, or work for the Devil. I get much the same from many Democrats.

Consider the young shooter. He was a registered Republican, who donated $15 dollars to Joe Biden’s PAC the day Biden was sworn into office, January 20, 2021. From that, I can easily think the shooter was deeply disturbed by the January 6 coup attempt, and that is what motivated him to try to kill Donald Trump with the NRA’s favorite hunting rifle, the M-15, which the young shooter’s father bought about 6 months ago.

In my opinion, Trump should have been impeached by Congress and tried and convicted in federal court, and hung.

In my opinion, Biden should be tired and convicted in federal court, and hung for helping Israel and Hamas destroy Gaza.

It looks to me that God doesn’t want either man in the White House, because they are criminals and they are infiltrated by a demon, as are their supporters by association.
Whew. Well, I am not voting for either rich old guy - I'm writing in my vote and just voting on other issues.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
It's a mistake to take a metaphor literally.
But consider that Trump supporters did intend to
hang Mike Pence because he honored the Constitution
by refusing to over-turn the election.
Trump did not speak in metaphor leading up to Jan 6 and he is not speaking in metaphor now, and Biden lost his f-ing mind when he made that remark, and if he’s that out of touch, he should not be president for that alone, forget all the other, which should disqualify him before he said put bullseye on Trump
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Whew. Well, I am not voting for either rich old guy - I'm writing in my vote and just voting on other issues.
Which rich old guy will you vote for?
My rich old guy will be Chase Oliver.
He's the only non-fringe candidate who
opposes Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
 

Redneck Mystic

Active Member
Which rich old guy will you vote for?
My rich old guy will be Chase Oliver.
He's the only non-fringe candidate who
opposes Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
I’m not voting for either rich old white guy either. I hoped Michelle Obama would announce she would accept the Dem nomination, but she announced she would not.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I’m not voting for either rich old white guy either. I hoped Michelle Obama would announce she would accept the Dem nomination, but she announced she would not.
Oh great.....someone whose qualification is having
been a President's wife...& banning school lunches
from serving hummus. <-- That really made her
unpopular with MI's huge Mid-East ex-pat population.
 
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