The demon problem

[Pastek]

God allowed the writing about demons and angels. I'm going with God and the prophets. Jesus spoke about them. He has the power to order them out. Yehoshua is the truth. That is how he does it imo.

Demons are message carriers too. But those messages cause damage. Did no one ever wonder why demons are assigned eternal darkness by a loving God? It is because demons are false messages that cause damage.

Not all the demons are bad or lie.
They can like humans be good or bad, while angels have no free will.

 

[Looncall]

Not all the demons are bad or lie.
They can like humans be good or bad, while angels have no free will.

How do you demonstrate the truth of these statements?

 

[Pastek]

How do you demonstrate the truth of these statements?

I can't as it's religious.

 

[dawny0826]

A demon is any lie believed. Isn't it dangerous to believe a lie?

In my faith walk, He who is in Me is greater than a lie, greater than any evil force that might approach or influence me.

I don't entertain the notion that demons, regardless as to how real or unreal the notion may be, have any power over me, as I'm striving for more and embrace what I've been given through Christ.

 

[Muffled]

Being weary of such a notion is contemptible. It's easy to blame influence on a metaphysical force.

Responsibility is a trait of character and tact. While investigations go on in this new realm, do be weary.

Welcome to RF.

Actually I believe people usually go out of their way to deny metaphysical influence because it is easier to believe in things seen and sensed.

I believe a person is still responsible for resisting a demon but sometimes a little help is necessary.

I believe the majority of people are fallible, perhaps everyone is.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Welcome to RF.

Actually I believe people usually go out of their way to deny metaphysical influence because it is easier to believe in things seen and sensed.

I believe a person is still responsible for resisting a demon but sometimes a little help is necessary.

I believe the majority of people are fallible, perhaps everyone is.

Majority wise, people are more likely to blame something else rather than themselves for their problems.

Since our sphere of influence only contain us, anything that seems out of our control is likely to be blamed on something or someone else. Regardless of the truth.

 

[Muffled]

Accordingly I might be a demon and/or demon possessed and I am quite sure there are people who believe it.

But what I see from my point of view, a demon being a creature who calls lies truth, almost everyone is it.

Let's call Babylon the Great the institusion for the propagation of lies. Everyone who is decided that they won't lie anymore has come out of her.

Let's define a lie for good. A lie is an untruth. The person telling the untruth does not have to be conscious it is a lie for it to be a lie. And the person does not have to have evil in mind for for it to be lying.

Is it not interesting the English word for lie is the same as to lie down with someone? A prostitute which is what Babylon is called, lies down with anybody. A demon will call anything "truth".

I don't believe that a demon is just a liar but rather an evil being that practices lies to fullfil an evil purpose.

This Babylon is full of all kinds of sins but that doesn't mean there aren't righteous people in the city that don't partake of those sins.

 

[Muffled]

Majority wise, people are more likely to blame something else rather than themselves for their problems.

Since our sphere of influence only contain us, anything that seems out of our control is likely to be blamed on something or someone else. Regardless of the truth.

Cassius:
"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."
i believe people will blame almost anything but themselves becasue it is a self defense mechanism.

I believe there is a wide area of things out of our control. That is why I was so willing to give control to God, that and the fact that I beleive He has my best interests at heart. And the best part is that I could really blame God because He is in control of my life but I would not likely do so because even the not so great things in my life are still in my best interest even if I amy not understand why.

 

[rusra02]

A demon is believed to be a real character who causes trouble on purpose and there are believed to be many such characters.

It seems they are not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT) but Jesus spoke of them. What are they?

Satan is called the father of the lie and it is taught demons belong to him.

So demons and lies coexist.

Demon might be the name of something that believes it is right but it is wrong. If that is correct a demon need not be something on purpose and a demon might not be malevolent but still very dangerous.

The Bible explains who the demons are and where they came from, I believe. (Jude 6) and it clearly warns us about these wicked angels. (Ephesians 6:11-12)

 

[gnostic]

Are demons "evil spirits"?

 

[rusra02]

Are demons "evil spirits"?

Yes, according to the Bible, they are. (Acts 16:16) Mark 5:8 shows Jesus calling the demons "unclean spirits". The parallel account in Matthew 8:28,29 calls them demons.

 

[Athan]

A demon is believed to be a real character who causes trouble on purpose and there are believed to be many such characters.

It seems they are not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT) but Jesus spoke of them. What are they?

Satan is called the father of the lie and it is taught demons belong to him.

So demons and lies coexist.

Demon might be the name of something that believes it is right but it is wrong. If that is correct a demon need not be something on purpose and a demon might not be malevolent but still very dangerous.

I believe demons are bodiless spirits that hate us, and would love to see us miserable like themselves.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

A demon is believed to be a real character who causes trouble on purpose and there are believed to be many such characters.

It seems they are not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT) but Jesus spoke of them. What are they?

Satan is called the father of the lie and it is taught demons belong to him.

So demons and lies coexist.

Demon might be the name of something that believes it is right but it is wrong. If that is correct a demon need not be something on purpose and a demon might not be malevolent but still very dangerous.

Demons are ill-behaved little children who run around grocery stores unattended.

 

[gnostic]

Yes, according to the Bible, they are. (Acts 16:16) Mark 5:8 shows Jesus calling the demons "unclean spirits". The parallel account in Matthew 8:28,29 calls them demons.

If that's true, then the New Testament say one thing, while the Old Testament.

With the New Testament, it may say that evil spirits or demons may be under the Devil's or Satan's rule, but in 1 Samuel 16, 18, 19 clearly stated that God had sent an evil spirit against Saul.

In the Old Testament, God command and control all spirits, good and evil.

 

[Looncall]

I can't as it's religious.

So why should anyone regard those notions as anything more than mere superstition?

 

[Pastek]

So why should anyone regard those notions as anything more than mere superstition?

Who said anyone have to believe in that way ?
I'm just giving my opinion according to my belief.

 

[BruceDLimber]

People who believe in demons are dangerous. No?

Only some of them. . . .



You really should avoid passive voice, though: far too often, it signifies a cop-out.

Bruce

 

[savagewind]

Only some of them. . . .



You really should avoid passive voice, though: far too often, it signifies a cop-out.

Bruce

I don't understand this much. Is the quote you quoted me a passive example?

Are you using the phrase cop-out to describe me as one who is making excuses? And if so who do you think I am excusing, me or someone else? Can you please be more specific. It sounds like you want to help but your message is not coming through.

 

[Password]

Some view demons as character vices with a self seeking fulfillment to destroy the self in which it possesses. It also try's to pervert the virtues of the week minded who lack a solid foundation of reason who also do not understand the ramifications that it may cause(ripple effect). It's point is to work aginst life both physically and spiritually.

 

[savagewind]

Some view demons as character vices with a self seeking fulfillment to destroy the self in which it possesses. It also try's to pervert the virtues of the week minded who lack a solid foundation of reason who also do not understand the ramifications that it may cause(ripple effect). It's point is to work aginst life both physically and spiritually.

That sounds good. I forget what the op is about.