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The Development of New Atheism of the Mind

Cooky

Veteran Member
I was looking into the works of Sam Harris, and listening to one of his podcasts, when he started probing a professor of biology about how we will likely be curing neurological disorders and tampering with our moral capabilities with direct cranial inserts that modify the human mind within the next 50 years... This is no longer science fiction, BTW, as they already exist, and can be purchased and surgically installed.
Sam Harris - Wikipedia


There are other, more basic ways, to get linked to a computer right now, such as using EGG sensors like Muse. I think this is an introduction to a whole new phase of technological development that will rapidly connect us to a digital world.

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My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It all depends on the capabilities if the chip. If it turns you into a religious robot i see religious people flocking for an implant. If it provides knowledge at a whim then maybe some atheists would be interested.

Personally i think it will be a long time before such a device is feasible, the complexity and functioning of the brain is still not fully understood. You got to know how a machine works before you can drive it
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I was looking into the works of Sam Harris, and listening to one of his podcasts, when he started probing a professor of biology about how we will likely be curing neurological disorders and tampering with our moral capabilities with direct cranial inserts that modify the human mind within the next 50 years... This is no longer science fiction, BTW, as they already exist, and can be purchased and surgically installed.
Sam Harris - Wikipedia


There are other, more basic ways, to get linked to a computer right now, such as using EGG sensors like Muse. I think this is an introduction to a whole new phase of technological development that will rapidly connect us to a digital world.

View attachment 45874

My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.


this can be done simply with electromagnetic fields and/or electro shock therapy. nothing new
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.
Guess this will be how you get ready for a night out in the future :D

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On a more serious note, I think it's pretty awesome. Im not a 100% sure what exactly this thing can solve. But if I as a person suffered from something, which ruined or caused me a lot of pain in general. And this operation could solved it in around an hour with no pain for a couple of 1000 dollars, I would do it.

If it can actually store memories in the future, then it just need a direct link to the internet and we can have Brainbook replace Facebook :D
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Guess this will be how you get ready for a night out in the future :D

NJZNrTiRgWzJHnTvXDfbT3.jpg


On a more serious note, I think it's pretty awesome. Im not a 100% sure what exactly this thing can solve. But if I as a person suffered from something, which ruined or caused me a lot of pain in general. And this operation could solved it in around an hour with no pain for a couple of 1000 dollars, I would do it.

If it can actually store memories in the future, then it just need a direct link to the internet and we can have Brainbook replace Facebook :D

As i recall Arthur C Clark called such a device the Brainman in his book Hammer of God

It was about the time the sony Walkman was popular
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Guess this will be how you get ready for a night out in the future :D

NJZNrTiRgWzJHnTvXDfbT3.jpg


On a more serious note, I think it's pretty awesome. Im not a 100% sure what exactly this thing can solve. But if I as a person suffered from something, which ruined or caused me a lot of pain in general. And this operation could solved it in around an hour with no pain for a couple of 1000 dollars, I would do it.

If it can actually store memories in the future, then it just need a direct link to the internet and we can have Brainbook replace Facebook :D

I wonder if in the future, we'll be able to open the refrigerator door just by thinking it. turn on and off the lights, set the alarm, just by thought... I think Alexa, combined with an EEG brain scanner could advance technology into the next phase.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Development of technology supports it's inventions that use electricity for its functions.

Electricity removes brain function health in its electrified victims.

I suppose if you quote human greed kills of all bio life by the totality of using energy to its zenith. Bits smallest converted presence as compared to energy mass highest.

Then science would have told science you want energies highest origins to only support your human technology.

As a theme bio intelligence natural versus subliminal greed control technology. Origins human group control.

Which would place life into a prophetic realisation. All moments of origin human group control owning it's destructive self conclusion.

To want the brain mind to be interactive with its new family.

The human family would no longer exist.

Our brains are not a missing designer human inventor. The thinker.

We will never be machines. As electrical functions would knowingly super fry bio cell chemistry. Seeing we are not electrical circuits.

The power surge to control connect that sort of machine reaction is mechanical.

Stephen Hawking was correct about his brothers.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
Development of technology supports it's inventions that use electricity for its functions.

Electricity removes brain function health in its electrified victims.

I suppose if you quote human greed kills of all bio life by the totality of using energy to its zenith. Bits smallest converted presence as compared to energy mass highest.

Then science would have told science you want energies highest origins to only support your human technology.

As a theme bio intelligence natural versus subliminal greed control technology. Origins human group control.

Which would place life into a prophetic realisation. All moments of origin human group control owning it's destructive self conclusion.

To want the brain mind to be interactive with its new family.

The human family would no longer exist.

Our brains are not a missing designer human inventor. The thinker.

We will never be machines. As electrical functions would knowingly super fry bio cell chemistry. Seeing we are not electrical circuits.

The power surge to control connect that sort of machine reaction is mechanical.

Stephen Hawking was correct about his brothers.
Ever heard of v-fib? You may want to look that up.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Ever heard of v-fib? You may want to look that up.
With what motivated commentary inferred?

If you are living and need stimulus to activate neural chemical responses, seeing sperm and ovary activation begins life process...then isn't medical technology based on how a natural bio functioning body, in medicine natural first. Or do you think v fib has ownership of life because of the want of new forms to gain electricity?
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
With what motivated commentary inferred?

If you are living and need stimulus to activate neural chemical responses, seeing sperm and ovary activation begins life process...then isn't medical technology based on how a natural bio functioning body, in medicine natural first. Or do you think v fib has ownership of life because of the want of new forms to gain electricity?
Right...
 

McBell

Unbound
I was looking into the works of Sam Harris, and listening to one of his podcasts, when he started probing a professor of biology about how we will likely be curing neurological disorders and tampering with our moral capabilities with direct cranial inserts that modify the human mind within the next 50 years... This is no longer science fiction, BTW, as they already exist, and can be purchased and surgically installed.
Sam Harris - Wikipedia


There are other, more basic ways, to get linked to a computer right now, such as using EGG sensors like Muse. I think this is an introduction to a whole new phase of technological development that will rapidly connect us to a digital world.

View attachment 45874

My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.
I found this an interesting read:

Wireless system can power devices inside the body: New technology could enable remote control of drug delivery, sensing, and other medical applications
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I was looking into the works of Sam Harris, and listening to one of his podcasts, when he started probing a professor of biology about how we will likely be curing neurological disorders and tampering with our moral capabilities with direct cranial inserts that modify the human mind within the next 50 years... This is no longer science fiction, BTW, as they already exist, and can be purchased and surgically installed.
Sam Harris - Wikipedia


There are other, more basic ways, to get linked to a computer right now, such as using EGG sensors like Muse. I think this is an introduction to a whole new phase of technological development that will rapidly connect us to a digital world.

View attachment 45874

My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.

I would not want any technology to alter my mindset as I am paranoid of my mind being tampered with. It is the same reason why I don't take most drugs and don't drink alcohol as they alter my mind way too much. I want to be as invulnerable to manipulation as possible.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
I was looking into the works of Sam Harris, and listening to one of his podcasts, when he started probing a professor of biology about how we will likely be curing neurological disorders and tampering with our moral capabilities with direct cranial inserts that modify the human mind within the next 50 years... This is no longer science fiction, BTW, as they already exist, and can be purchased and surgically installed.
Sam Harris - Wikipedia


There are other, more basic ways, to get linked to a computer right now, such as using EGG sensors like Muse. I think this is an introduction to a whole new phase of technological development that will rapidly connect us to a digital world.

View attachment 45874

My question however is that what would you do? Would you ever have a microchip installed into your skull? Does your answer become based on religious or moral beliefs? Would a "New Atheist" be more prone to receiving it than a "Religious Zealot"..? Why or why not? Also, what does the future hold in this regard. What are the benefits and long term goals..? Thanks for your time.
I won't forsake my humanity for a transhumanist agenda
I am for free humanity
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You're basically rewiring the brain either way

Neuroplasticity

What? Ok, so either you are not following the thread or didnt read what i wrore in relation to the thread just so you can get a snide remark in. That shows far more about you than about my comment
 
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