Not really, it is a matter of simply psycology. There are no external forces at work. For example, at one point in my life I also feared balls during a football game (not american football). Reason? The ball had decided to find my face erlier in the game and it hurt! So then I accosiated the ball with that pain and had an instinct to avoid it all the time, even when I tried not to. That of course was a temporal fear of mine. But fears do not come from external sources, they are a result of how our mind works.Ah, now do you know why you fear the dark, is it because you get this tingling feeling of fearthat my freind is how they work with your minds..
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The devil
- Thread starter IMAM
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Who am I to say what you should do, all I can tell you is to be aware of the true reality, so that all of you lovely people prepare yourselves as to what is to come when our souls will exit fromour throats
This reminds me of a freind of mine,when we were Kids the Preist told him he would go to Hell if he was bad (he was a Catholic) and he suffered with nightmares because of that,this is the stick part of your religion and the Carrot is the promise of Heaven.
Metempsychosis
Reincarnation of 'Anti-religion'
Why should souls go out of our throats?:sad:
Imam's logic is in sync with Quranic prophets like Zakir Naik and Harun Yahya.
I think Imam has joined honorable league of muslims here which involves revolutionary thinkers like Fatihah,Eselam and many others.:clap
Imam's logic is in sync with Quranic prophets like Zakir Naik and Harun Yahya.
I think Imam has joined honorable league of muslims here which involves revolutionary thinkers like Fatihah,Eselam and many others.:clap
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charlienecro
New Member
Jinn do exist. Do you really think all of those "ghosts" are really people that have died?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I don't think any of them are really people that have died. Jinns neither.
charlienecro
New Member
Some, the ones that do not interact, are just playback, like a videotape. Others, that do interact, are jinn.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
... and you are some kind of expert on this? Care to present your qualifications?
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charlienecro
New Member
As much of an expert, as yourself.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Well, I have done just that. You don't seem to understand that there is more at play here than your knowledge of jinn allows.Ok if you live in the woods, go for a walk at night alll by yourself and sit next to a tree for a while and then let me know what feeling you have, and if you are truly daring cut a piece of the tree off, and then let me know the outcome
dragynfly0515
Satan Worshipper
And of mine, since I'm a Satanist. The devil is Satan, not a jinn. He is the accuser of God and of all religious hypocrites. He is Lucifer, the bringer of light and of gnosis. He is Azazel, lover of beauty and of man. He is Baphomet, Lord of secrecy and arcane knowledge, and all magicks. He is Pan, the original god demonized by Christianity. And he is even Sophia, or Wisdom.
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Crys
imaginaryme
Active Member
I can't deal.. is this guy a troll? Here's how easy it works -
God is the span of human conception. Those among us who are uncertain, have little by way of self-knowledge or personal integrity; invite these whispers. It is the uncertain fear of one concious mind expressing conception without name or form; and this in turn becomes the "whispers" to another who is similarily disconnected. This is not in a religious sense, this is an empirical sense. I have always known who I was, and what I am about. I've done truckloads of acid but actually hallucinated only twice. I don't hear ghosts and whispers; I hear chaos and entropy. And I have had that sleep paralysis that many turn into alien abduction. I know exactly why that is - the terror is unworldly. But I saw men with guns - saw - because of what was probably the greatest act of will I have ever performed - I tried to grab the shotgun pointed at my head. Course there was no shotgun; but while such things still recur, they cannot inspire the previous level of terror.
Besides, if you know god; you should know that cat can play all the roles.
God is the span of human conception. Those among us who are uncertain, have little by way of self-knowledge or personal integrity; invite these whispers. It is the uncertain fear of one concious mind expressing conception without name or form; and this in turn becomes the "whispers" to another who is similarily disconnected. This is not in a religious sense, this is an empirical sense. I have always known who I was, and what I am about. I've done truckloads of acid but actually hallucinated only twice. I don't hear ghosts and whispers; I hear chaos and entropy. And I have had that sleep paralysis that many turn into alien abduction. I know exactly why that is - the terror is unworldly. But I saw men with guns - saw - because of what was probably the greatest act of will I have ever performed - I tried to grab the shotgun pointed at my head. Course there was no shotgun; but while such things still recur, they cannot inspire the previous level of terror.
Besides, if you know god; you should know that cat can play all the roles.
Tiapan
Grumpy Old Man
Well what an amazing story, it reminds me of Hansel and Grettel. I do believe, this me, after death, will disintegrate to dust or rather be recycled by bacteria. I do not believe for one moment that our "spirit" will wisp its way across the universe to some final judgement, that is just unproveable fantasy.
However in one sense we can transcend the grave. Perhaps we could write a book or a piece of music, or discover some phenomena. What is it we leave behind when we die, that lives on. Our children.
Our kids have half our DNA so we in a sense live on through our offspring, afterall we are simply a complex manifestation of our DNA. Although half present physically we obviously will have no conscious awareness of their world.
If we treat our children with kindness and respect their outcomes will have a greater potential for success (Measured as being able to survive long enough to breed the next generation). Our potential heaven/Paradise.
If on the other hand we abuse our children whipping them and punishing them for normal activities, then we have generated our hell as we will be part of their uncertain journey through life.
Back to the OP, The devil and god are the yin and yang of every individual's psyche. What you are trying to show is an externalisation of these basic human emotions, through myth and theatrics. Education generally allows a good balance for social interaction without the need for nasty bogey men running around in the shadows. But would make excellent fairy story or epic movie like Lord of the Rings.
Cheers
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I don't have Jinn in my tradition, but I do have demons (Quilopth) but they are NOT angels, fallen or otherwise, never have been. However, they are not considered to be in any position to challenge G-d, they are but spiritual toxic residue left over from the Shevirat ha-Kelim (Breaking of the Vessels) of the creation process as explained in the Kabbalah. Nevermind, they're not angels is the important point. No revolt in heaven, and for most people not a source for concern at all. Man has enough evil inclination, no need for devils or demons or jinn or anyone else to sow misery and hate, we are our own worst enemy.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Funny... I thought his greatest trick was convincing us that he was God.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
You know nothing of the devil. The devil does not respond well to complete and utter idiocy.
The devil will teach you to be strong in mind and will, to think for yourself before anything else and to uphold your standards in all aspects of life.
You've failed in 3 of the 4 in 1 post, so if the devil patted you on the shoulder you took some seriously bent drugs sir. :yes:
Who created the Devil ?
Sorry You will End Up in Hell With HIM !!!
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Its better than going to hell after living a half life trying to escape hell.