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The devil

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
We are created for only one purpose !
Which is To worship Allah (God} the Almighty Only !!


SURAH AZ-ZARIYAT (51), AYAH 56:

" I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me."
Sorry, friend, I was not "created" to worship Allah. Your book is wrong.
 

OmarKhayyam

Well-Known Member
The great Creator of this vast universe, heavens, earth, galaxies, trillions and trillions of species, is only conceivable only through his creation, miracles we witness, intervention in every nano second of our life. Since the moment He has willed for a single sperm cell to fertilize the female egg, and this miraculous development of a fetus into a human being, talking, walking, eating, drinking, being healthy, and being able to perform countless activities. Allah, the one great God, the almighty Creator, is there watching us, being merciful to us…!!

We are created for only one purpose !
Which is To worship Allah (God} the Almighty Only !!


SURAH AZ-ZARIYAT (51), AYAH 56:

" I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me."

And your evidence for this is . . . what?:confused:
 

AFRICAN

Member
The great Creator of this vast universe, heavens, earth, galaxies, trillions and trillions of species, is only conceivable only through his creation, miracles we witness, intervention in every second of our life. Since the moment He has willed for a single sperm cell to fertilize the female egg, and this miraculous development of a fetus into a human being, talking, walking, eating, drinking, being healthy, and being able to perform countless activities. Allah, the one great God, the almighty Creator, is there watching us, being merciful to us…!!

We are created for only one purpose !
Which is To worship Allah (God} the Almighty Only !!

Whats it like being a slave,i mean i have heard it countless times "slave to Allah" given that most of Humanity doesn't want slavery.
I can see from your post that the existence of proof is somewhat missing,as to Allah being merciful to us,have you checked out Yemen;)

Slavery you say ! what do u know about slavery ? we Africans know slavery more than anyone else ..
But being a slave to Man is way different than being a slave to the Creator .Being a slave to Man is oppression because we are all created equally but when i say i am a slave to Allah it means the one who is enslaved by Allah and who submits and humbles himself to him.And more to that being thankful and showing gratitude for all blessings

What's happening in Yemen , Afghanistan , Iraq , Palestine e.t.c .. its all MAN's DOING ...
There will come a time where the oppressor become the oppressed Allah is all knowing the Just the wise the judge of judges .
 

AFRICAN

Member
Sorry, friend, I was not "created" to worship Allah. Your book is wrong.

Sorry brother you actually don't know the reason of your existence and you claim my book is wrong ..My book is the Truth unless you prove otherwise ..
P.s
Why don't you try reading it ??
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Sorry brother you actually don't know the reason of your existence and you claim my book is wrong ..My book is the Truth unless you prove otherwise ..
P.s
Why don't you try reading it ??

Your book is a book. Its not up to us to do anything, if you want credibility for your book prove that its true.

You won't because you can't.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friends,

The problem is that we are all not understanding that we as humans came before even the mind developed to create alphabets and even write or even meditate for a path to be seen for others to follow which is called RELIGION.
If religion came after us then why we finding about books that we read.
Fine if the mind does not want to read different books, one is free to just read and follow what it likes without talking/disturbing others.
Live and Let Live!
We can all meet in hell or heaven by following / not-following our own books. Again the choice remains to talk with each other or not after meeting there as we have used different doors to enter the place.

Love & rgds
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Sorry brother you actually don't know the reason of your existence
I'd suggest that I am in a far better position to tell you why I exist than you are.

and you claim my book is wrong ..My book is the Truth unless you prove otherwise ..
You book is most certainly wrong for me. That is all the proof I need. To quote an old song, "It doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you".

P.s
Why don't you try reading it ??
I have read it several times. The English translations are pretty miserable reading to the point that they become quite boring. To the unbeliever, Allah comes across as a self-absorbed petty tyrant quite unworthy of being called a "god". That is, of course, if you are even remotely interested in my opinion.
 
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Ozzie

Well-Known Member
This is a favorite topic of mine, as I have been very close to the devil in my early day's and have studied his personality to a level in which, the devil himself has patted me on my shoulder for being to comrehend as to what the real war is all about. I will not go into the details as to how and why and where the devil has come from, because that will no doubt lead us all into another battle of the minds.
If you were a prick in your early days, why blame an entity for it?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
If you were a prick in your early days, why blame an entity for it?
Because this way he can neatly avoid accepting responsibility for his actions. Psychologically it is a short term win-win, but ultimately is a very big loss, imo.
 

AFRICAN

Member
I'd suggest that I am in a far better position to tell you why I exist than you are.

You book is most certainly wrong for me. That is all the proof I need. To quote an old song, "It doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you".

I have read it several times. The English translations are pretty miserable reading to the point that they become quite boring. To the unbeliever, Allah comes across as a self-absorbed petty tyrant quite unworthy of being called a "god". That is, of course, if you are even remotely interested in my opinion.

Well brother i believe My book which is The Quran is Gods words ..in the Quran each word has wisdom to it .
its really good to know u actually got the chance to read and probably u read it with out pondering and understanding as i can see from your post ,But the fact that your acquiring knowledge trying to find truth is itself great..you deserve credit for that !

Brother zenzero , Man was not created ignorant ..
Religion is a way of life guiding man to truth and understanding the reality of life .

Brother Imam am sorry to actually jump into this topic and change it to a different thing even tho everything is connected..

I will start a new topic Called The Message i invite all of you ..Thank u
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend AFRICAN,

Religion is a way of life guiding man to truth and understanding the reality of life .

Thank you for this deep understanding.

It shows that you agree that there can be many paths or ways or religion to reach the same state of understanding reality.
Then amongst humans following different paths where is the difference?
Love & rgds
 

OmarKhayyam

Well-Known Member
My book is the Truth unless you prove otherwise ..

This position is absurd on its face. It is equivalent to:

There are invisible unicorns on Mars.

This statement is true unless you can prove otherwise.:rolleyes:

Such a position essentially does away with fact and substitutes assertion.:facepalm:
 

AFRICAN

Member
Brother Zenzero ,
They are only two paths "righteousness" & "falsehood "
Since the beginning of time there has only been one religion ... I will explain further in my new topic See you there t.c
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Brother Zenzero ,
They are only two paths "righteousness" & "falsehood "
Since the beginning of time there has only been one religion ... I will explain further in my new topic See you there t.c

What absolute nonsense, how naive and simplistic, like a school girl nursery rhyme. Nothing is black and white its is always grey, including "righteousness" & "falsehood " . Does not the Quoran state that the spirit in the sky sprinkled lamps in the second layer heavens, giving us stars and the moon was made especially for man as a way to see at night. Only a twit would utter such childish nonsense.

Cheers
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend AFRICAN,

They are only two paths "righteousness" & "falsehood "
Since the beginning of time there has only been one religion ... I will explain further in my new topic See you there t.c

Look forward to your new post to understand your perspectives on righteousness and falsehood.
Best Wishes.
Love & rgds
 
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