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The Edification of Society

No*s

Captain Obvious
In light of the destruction of society thread, I'm going to put up one for the opposite. It is true that I see many terrifying things on the horizen ranging from enviromental problems to political problems to new weapons and so on, but I am also hopeful that we can by-pass them. Of course, I'm not looking forward to the water shortage or when the enviromental disasters really make us all fret, but I do look forward to some of the advances I think will come.

Of course, I want to hear what other good things people hope will come, but here's mine:

1). I'm looking forward to computers that are integrated with neurons or other cells to increase their processing power. I don't know if there's any research in that direction, but I would be surprised if there wasn't any research into it. Since we've hit a digital plateu of sorts with clock speed (not RAM, storage, onboard caches, and the like...just clock speed), this would be nice. We have so many good things that could benefit from this type of processing power, that it's outstanding.

2). In a related tangent, I know this is being researched. I'm looking forward to our being able to hook computers directly up to nerves and receive the responses. In this way, we could have things as diverse as fully functional artificial prosthetics to direct net connections a la 3001 and so on.

3). Connected to 1, I'm looking forward to mass-produced multi-terabyte storage. It will make information available faster and better than ever before. That will truly be wonderful for keeping freedom alive.

4). This one is far-fetched, but I believe I read somewhere that they are working on using quantum mechanics to teleport particles from one place to another. I couldn't help but imagine the possibility of NICs that use such technology to create a truly wireless internet that also wouldn't have radio waves that could be interecepted. The ultimate form of encryption: transmission without possibility of interception. Current DNS-style software could do a lot of the IP resolving in a situation like that :).

5). This is my most ridiculous hope. It probably can't happen, but it would be nice if we could hook up all these computers to share processing power, and create a sort of random series of mutations in it it to simulate evolution and create a digital biosphere. One of the forces in natural selection would be servicing humans both in desire and in practical terms. Once that is hard-coded in, we have a situation where the computers would act that way and not transgress it anymore than a dog transgresses being a dog. It would create a self-sustaining digital network that corrects (and creates) its own security problems and maintains itself. It could also regulate trade and other such things and create a balance using the same forces that govern nature, but with safeguards in place from evolution.

Like I said, it probably can't happen. I see too many problems with its creation, but it would be nice.

6). I hope to see us use viruses to eliminate bacteria, protozoa and the like in our foods and help wipe out more diseases quite efficiently, make food clean, etc. Heck, it might even be able to be used to wipe out cancer (I know there is research into these applications).

7). I hope to see a space-mining industry develop to hopefully help us expand our resource base before consumption destroys it.

8). More enviroment-friendly fuels and tech. If we have those, we might be able to begin off-setting the damage we do. I just hope we can do it before our situation is too dire and irreversable.

9). I hope nanotechnology will make production cheaper and more efficient. If we could fit a factory on a table, then we could have proffesional level goods produced more easily. This, in turn, would have a trickle-down positive effect for third-world countries that have yet to build a solid industrial base.

10). I hope that digital technology and the ability to share information will make much government regulation obselete, whether it is because it is impossible, or because it renders it redundant. Things like copyrights could disappear and a collective approach to our problems could arise.

I know that much of that is very much sci-fi, but I'm somewhat optimistic about our future despite our equally bleak prospects. Just as we can destroy ourselves, we can also build ourselves up. The same technology that harms can also be used to heal. I'm not a utopian (that is stupid IMO), but I do think that we can do good...
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
No*s said:
3). Connected to 1, I'm looking forward to mass-produced multi-terabyte storage. It will make information available faster and better than ever before. That will truly be wonderful for keeping freedom alive.
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That is already possible, but only minorly:jiggy:

No*s said:
6). I hope to see us use viruses to eliminate bacteria, protozoa and the like in our foods and help wipe out more diseases quite efficiently, make food clean, etc. Heck, it might even be able to be used to wipe out cancer (I know there is research into these applications).
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Is this like the unorthodox methods the Russians have invented? They say that their way of curing AIDS is well uh, occasionally proven to be working..
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
SoulTYPE01 said:
No*s said:
3). Connected to 1, I'm looking forward to mass-produced multi-terabyte storage. It will make information available faster and better than ever before. That will truly be wonderful for keeping freedom alive.
That is already possible, but only minorly:jiggy:

I know. I'm hoping it becomes mainstream. It's not at industrial levle, much less mass-level, yet :(.

SoulTYPE01 said:
No*s said:
6). I hope to see us use viruses to eliminate bacteria, protozoa and the like in our foods and help wipe out more diseases quite efficiently, make food clean, etc. Heck, it might even be able to be used to wipe out cancer (I know there is research into these applications).
Is this like the unorthodox methods the Russians have invented? They say that their way of curing AIDS is well uh, occasionally proven to be working..

I don't think so, but I'm not sure what you're referring to. I doubt that a virus will kill a virus if I remember my biology aright...it attacks cells. I'm not a biologist, though... However, what the Russians are doing that you described is certainly another hopeful point of research.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
No*s said:
I doubt that a virus will kill a virus
Like the computer ones, they can do either that, or antagonise it and make it worse..

No*s said:
. However, what the Russians are doing that you described is certainly another hopeful point of research.
It is research..just not uh..the right way to go about it..
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
Some methods involve the "infected" person in extremely high-temperatured water..I do nt know why this would work, but someone here could either correct me or answer that..
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
That sounds like something some crackpot dreamed up. I'll chalk it up there with the "evidence" strict creationists use. It's nothing like what I was talking about...
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No*s -- your original vision of a digital biosphere and direct neurological computer access sounds rather like a combination of Borg society and a Matrix world. This might be a good thing though -- I'm still thinking about it.

In re: biotherapies, there are two that come to mind that have already been used. (Bacterio)phage therapy was a promising new modality back in the 30s but with the advent of the miraculously effective new antibiotics research funds dried up. It involves targeting infectious bacteria with specific bacterial viruses, infecting and killing them. I believe there's a clinic in european Georgia or some such place that currently specializes in this. With the increase in antibiotic resistant bacteria we're seeing today research into 'phage therapy may someday be resumed.


Monoclonal antibody therapy involves manufactured antibodies targeted to a specific pathogens. I believe there is widespread ongoing research in this area.

As far as viruses infecting viruses, remember that a virus works by insinuating itself into the DNA code of a living, metabolizing cell. A virus is not a living thing. It has no metabolism. It can't reproduce itself. It's an inert crystal of nucleic acid wraped in a protective protein jacket. A virus infecting a virus is like a computer virus infecting a sheet of paper with code for another virus written on it. Both types of virus are inert until inserted into their proper, active targets.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
Seyorni said:
A virus infecting a virus is like a computer virus infecting a sheet of paper with code for another virus written on it. Both types of virus are inert untill inserted into their proper, active targets.
Not always Sey, but I won't go further off topic..cos I like No*S
 

No*s

Captain Obvious
Seyorni said:
No*s -- your original vision of a digital biosphere and direct neurological computer access sounds rather like a combination of Borg society and a Matrix world. This might be a good thing though -- I'm still thinking about it.

I guess it could be taken that way, but what I was thinking of is more like some stuff in 3001 :). I do think it's inevitable, but I don' t have any concept of people enslaved to computers or a collective consciousness. That would be...disturbing to me. I value my individual liberty quite a bit.

Seyorni said:
In re: biotherapies, there are two that come to mind that have already been used. (Bacterio)phage therapy was a promising new modality back in the 30s but with the advent of the miraculously effective new antibiotics research funds dried up. It involves targeting infectious bacteria with specific bacterial viruses, infecting and killing them. I believe there's a clinic in european Georgia or some such place that currently specializes in this. With the increase in antibiotic resistant bacteria we're seeing today research into 'phage therapy may someday be resumed.


Monoclonal antibody therapy involves manufactured antibodies targeted to a specific pathogens. I believe there is widespread ongoing research in this area.

I was unaware of that. It sounds promising to me :).

Seyorni said:
As far as viruses infecting viruses, remember that a virus works by insinuating itself into the DNA code of a living, metabolizing cell. A virus is not a living thing. It has no metabolism. It can't reproduce itself. It's an inert crystal of nucleic acid wraped in a protective protein jacket. A virus infecting a virus is like a computer virus infecting a sheet of paper with code for another virus written on it. Both types of virus are inert untill inserted into their proper, active targets.

That's kind of what I thought it was, but I'm not a scientist, and biology is one of the sciences I am least adept in. Still, that's what I thought it was pretty much on the button. I was in good standing in not accepting those Russians' claims that Soul told us about.

What hopeful technologies do you see happening or think are possible?
 
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