The Ego of Jesus

[joshuapecci]

Regardless of historical truth, as I have no opinion on the existence of Jesus within humanity (yet), the story of Jesus is the story of the human soul.

It has been said Jesus surrendered to crucifixion in order to prove a lack of ego, so He could flow with nature... the natural order of the Universe. In other words, crucifixion is a process of nature as much as rainfall is (of course, one could then argue anything that happens in the Universe is considered a natural process). But I believe this to be more so a process of the soul.

It boils down to what's the purpose of existing if you don't become perfected at some point? The struggle becomes how could one ever compare to someone as perfect a symbol as Jesus, even if it is expected of us or a process of nature? We are born into the world of spirit as we are born into the world of the flesh. One birth comes off as a bit easier.

 

[Desert Snake]

Regardless of historical truth, as I have no opinion on the existence of Jesus within humanity (yet), the story of Jesus is the story of the human soul.

It has been said Jesus surrendered to crucifixion in order to prove a lack of ego, so He could flow with nature... the natural order of the Universe. In other words, crucifixion is a process of nature as much as rainfall is (of course, one could then argue anything that happens in the Universe is considered a natural process). But I believe this to be more so a process of the soul.

It boils down to what's the purpose of existing if you don't become perfected at some point? The struggle becomes how could one ever compare to someone as perfect a symbol as Jesus, even if it is expected of us or a process of nature? We are born into the world of spirit as we are born into the world of the flesh. One birth comes off as a bit easier.

Huh?
What book are you reading?

 

[joshuapecci]

Huh?
What book are you reading?

Dark Night of the Soul - John of the Cross

 

[Desert Snake]

Dark Night of the Soul - John of the Cross

Havent read that

 

[Brickjectivity]

It has been said Jesus surrendered to crucifixion in order to prove a lack of ego, so He could flow with nature... the natural order of the Universe. In other words, crucifixion is a process of nature as much as rainfall is (of course, one could then argue anything that happens in the Universe is considered a natural process). But I believe this to be more so a process of the soul.

It boils down to what's the purpose of existing if you don't become perfected at some point? The struggle becomes how could one ever compare to someone as perfect a symbol as Jesus, even if it is expected of us or a process of nature? We are born into the world of spirit as we are born into the world of the flesh. One birth comes off as a bit easier.

Most likely this can only be achieved by groups of people all supporting one another, and it probably takes a lot of effort and focus. I think generally you'd need a lot of people all seeking perfection to reach your goal, so you are talking about a lot of time and involvement.

 

[Super Universe]

Regardless of historical truth, as I have no opinion on the existence of Jesus within humanity (yet), the story of Jesus is the story of the human soul.

It has been said Jesus surrendered to crucifixion in order to prove a lack of ego, so He could flow with nature... the natural order of the Universe. In other words, crucifixion is a process of nature as much as rainfall is (of course, one could then argue anything that happens in the Universe is considered a natural process). But I believe this to be more so a process of the soul.

It boils down to what's the purpose of existing if you don't become perfected at some point? The struggle becomes how could one ever compare to someone as perfect a symbol as Jesus, even if it is expected of us or a process of nature? We are born into the world of spirit as we are born into the world of the flesh. One birth comes off as a bit easier.

Jesus allowed Himself to be crucified for a number of reasons.

Lucifer had begun the rebellion just before Jesus bestowed on the earth as a human child. Jesus could have eliminated Lucifer outright but He allowed the rebellion to continue until all angels had chosen a side so He could determine who was loyal and who was not. Jesus then continued with His bestowal to the earth. Jesus lived and experienced being human and could have left His body and returned to His universal duties (His body would have fallen dead) once He achieved enough human experience but He chose to allow the humans to kill Him to show the angels that He was not the cowardly royal ruler that Lucifer was claiming Him to be.

Another reason Jesus chose to allow Himself to be killed was that there is an angelic law that says they are not allowed to kill or harm a sentient being that has a soul. If trapped they are supposed to allow that being to kill them. If the being does not have a soul then the angels can resist with all necessary force. So, Jesus allowed the humans to kill Him to show the angels that He follows the law.

Jesus, as a human, was not perfect.

 

[Desert Snake]

Dark Night of the Soul - John of the Cross

You have to understand, for context, that Jesus, pre-exists His incarnation, the human incarnation, in Yisroel. Jesus is the logos in the OT, yet people don't realize that logos is not a concept, it is a description or rather a title, /that actually means, the manifested or human form of the trinity. When Jesus is "humanised", beyond His actual incarnation, the conclusions won't work, as derived from them, contextually. These non-theistic speculations are not part of Jesus adherence, for a reason.