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The emotional pain of loneliness is too much

PureX

Veteran Member
Women ignore me I'm invisible to them and it hurts I'm a man and I have sexual needs but women just don't seem to care about male sexuality unless they are getting paid for it or they find the guy to be handsome but I don't fit the bill so I get ignored and have to suffer through a life of sexual frustration and loneliness thanks women.
The road that you're going down, here, is not going to end well. Nothing good is going to come from you blaming women for the fact that you don't know how to interact with them. It's not magic. It's just a social skill that you can learn.

Admit that it's you that needs to learn, here. Not them. And then start looking around for some help. Do you have any male friends that might be able and willing to help you out? If not, then perhaps it's not just women that you need to learn how to interact with. Do you have any access to any sort of social counseling? Through a church, or a school, or a community help organization? Can you obtain access to any kind of mental health counseling or therapy? Are there any clubs in your area that you can join with people that share your interests? Are there any community services that you can volunteer at?

You need to get out of your apartment, and out of your own head, and amongst other human beings. Even if you're awkward and uncomfortable and say weird things around them, keep at it. You're an intelligent human being. You will learn how to do it better with time and practice. Persistence will pay off. Try to stay relaxed, and not beat yourself up (or anyone else) if things don't work out immediately. Stay calm, and stay with it.

But it's you that has to do this. Not them. They all have their own problems and issues to deal with.

My two cents.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Women ignore me I'm invisible to them and it hurts I'm a man and I have sexual needs but women just don't seem to care about male sexuality unless they are getting paid for it or they find the guy to be handsome but I don't fit the bill so I get ignored and have to suffer through a life of sexual frustration and loneliness thanks women.

I had some of the same thoughts as a young man, but I found that what others are saying in this thread is basically true: Work on yourself personally, get to know some women as friends (as just friends, not expectations of anything else!), and take some time getting to know how to relate to women outside of romantic or sexual contexts.

As a young man, I found myself having these same toxic thoughts, and then when I had a relationship, the relationship itself became toxic. It wasn't until I really started to develop healthy platonic relationships that I found myself in a healthy romantic and sexual relationship. Trust me, it is well worth the effort.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Women ignore me I'm invisible to them and it hurts I'm a man and I have sexual needs but women just don't seem to care about male sexuality unless they are getting paid for it or they find the guy to be handsome but I don't fit the bill so I get ignored and have to suffer through a life of sexual frustration and loneliness thanks women.
In my experience, the thing most likely to drive away prospective friends and intimate relations is to be "needy." And frankly, your posts reek of neediness, with very little that you seem willing to give. If you're all about you and your needs, then I suggest you take @Alien826's advice about Mrs. Palm and her five daughters.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Women ignore me I'm invisible to them and it hurts I'm a man and I have sexual needs but women just don't seem to care about male sexuality unless they are getting paid for it or they find the guy to be handsome but I don't fit the bill so I get ignored and have to suffer through a life of sexual frustration and loneliness thanks women.
Not everything is about a guys penis. People have depth to them you know. I mean im not a woman tho I have femme traits to my gender identity and am often perceived as such due to being AFAB but i have many reasons why i might engage in sexual behavior and news flash it's not always cuz this guys attractive or im getting paid. Note I only engaged in such behavior only virtually ive never slept with anyone in person... but let me list a few reasons why I have wanted to engage in sexual behavior virtually and did:


1. I genuinely was in love with the guy he was a kind man. Sexuality in that case was showing that love and genuinely wanting to be loved like that in returned. In this case sex and love bleed into each other but sex was an extention of that love I had. Respect was involved and everything was fun.

2. Fun. I have engaged in sexual behavior with folk online for the fun of it. But respect has to be there for me to do that. There has to be consent and the person has to acknowledge that im a person and consider my feelings. And so I have a few people i engage like this with and our relationship is mostly sexual but because there's respect and boundaries are kept and other things there's fun on both sides.

3. Curiousity. Sometimes im just experimenting. Once again respect has to be there for this to be enjoyable and for me to want to do this. And ive experimented with men, women and nonbinary folk online. Trans and cis. To do so there has to be respect on both sides and boundaries and honesty and communication. You dont get this from a lack of respect. Or from just being handsome.

4. Exhibitionism. I've posted photos or shared them with folk before. Publicly on certain sites and in private. Publically i no longer do so and it had nothing to do with those watching me as in thinking they were attractive. Publically i did so not in the past not for money but due to looking for validation and because it was arousing and also cuz it made me feel I had worth. And to get off on being watched. It was enjoyable in some ways and awful in others. Ive since learn I don't really like doing that publically even if doing so is arousing and enjoyable in many ways because mentally I have too much trauma that I would need to heal first to be able to distinguish my motives behind wanting to do so and to deal with the wide range of responses from insults to compliments. It's not something I could do now without dealing with a lot of issues first. Im not mentally strong enough for that kind of thing and I acknowledge that. Due to trauma and really being like most human beings I need trust to feel comfortable engaging in sexual activity and with public posts that trust is not there enough for me to feel comfortable. Privately I do this still and enjoy it. The people I do this with i trust a lot. And people that respect me a lot. And who share in return. If I didnt trust them i wouldn't engage with them. Again respecting boundaries and actually treating me like a human being goes a long way and for me is needed to share things privately.

5. Trauma issues. Yep that is a thing. Trauma can make soneone engage in activity they otherwise would not have. Due to seeking validation, trying to understand the abuse, self harm, feeling its the only way they have worth, feeling that they need to do maybe if they engage in enough sex then the abuse would be nothing it would be something they can minimize, feeling they cant say no they have to etc. I think trauma was in part a motive for me to post things publically in terms of photos and vids. That's why i dont publically post things like that anymore and deleted my account on a few sites. Whenever ive engaged in sexual behavior due to trauma issues usually it resulted in crying and feeling bad about myself. I doubt you would want to engage in sex with a woman and they feel bad about it.

6. Horny- I've engaged in sexual behavior online because of simple horniness and someone consented to it that I trust and usually is respectful.

7. Coersion- was forced and manipulated into sexual behavior a few times with a woman. Let me tell you how that ended- after almost a year with that woman I ended things and i no longer message her or talk to her. Why? Because she didn't respect me. And let me tell you how that lady's life went due to how she treated others...she saw and treated everyone as objects. She even told me she didn't see people as people. She was constantly sexually harrassing folk that she had no friends. She needed therapy but couldnt find a therapist to take her because she'd sexually harrass the therapist. She was an unhappy and miserable person who felt her only value was her body. And unless she changes and starts to respect people as people she'll never have any happy or meaningful friendships let alone romantic or even causal long term sexual relationship relationships. Take that as a cautionary tale.

8. Impulsiveness- just plain being impulsive and not thinking things through. Always with consent but usually this did not end well...it usually ended in me either being in a dangerous situation with lots of red flags and or me feeling awful.


As you can see and i only touched the tip of the iceberg people can have many reasons for sexual activity. And trust, respect, boundaries, communcation is usually needed for happy sexual relationships at least long term ones. If you want anyone man woman other to sleep with you well...try analyzing what you want. And what other people want. And learn to treat people with respect viewing them as human beings not just their body. As complex multifaceted individuals with wants, desires, boundaries, and needs just like you.


Youll need to work on yourself first. Once you figure out how to respect folk for more then just body parts and that people are complex and multifaceted that'll be a good start. I do think you may need to try to be friends with women without sex before you can learn to treat them with respect as more then just body parts. But to do that youll need to figure out whats holding you back from that. It sounds to me you may have trauma issues and harmful societal views regarding sex and women that may need to be addressed. Some introspection at the least would be helpful.
 
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VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
As you can see and i only touched the tip of the iceberg people can have many reasons for sexual activity. And trust, respect, boundaries, communcation is usually needed for happy sexual relationships at least long term ones. If you want anyone man woman other to sleep with you well...try analyzing what you want. And what other people want. And learn to treat people with respect viewing them as human beings not just their body. As complex multifaceted individuals with wants, desires, boundaries, and needs just like you.


Youll need to work on yourself first. Once you figure out how to respect folk for more then just body parts and that people are complex and multifaceted that'll be a good start. I do think you may need to try to be friends with women without sex before you can learn to treat them with respect as more then just body parts. But to do that youll need to figure out whats holding you back from that. It sounds to me you may have trauma issues and harmful societal views regarding sex and women that may need to be addressed. Some introspection at the least would be helpful.
@Massimo2002
This is the most import part if you dont feel like reading the whole thing. I think reading the whole thing is useful but this is the important part. I bolded some of the parts to pay most attention to
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Coersion- was forced and manipulated into sexual behavior a few times with a woman. Let me tell you how that ended- after almost a year with that woman I ended things and i no longer message her or talk to her. Why? Because she didn't respect me. And let me tell you how that lady's life went due to how she treated others...she saw and treated everyone as objects. She even told me she didn't see people as people. She was constantly sexually harrassing folk that she had no friends. She needed therapy but couldnt find a therapist to take her because she'd sexually harrass the therapist. She was an unhappy and miserable person who felt her only value was her body. And unless she changes and starts to respect people as people she'll never have any happy or meaningful friendships let alone romantic or even causal long term sexual relationship relationships. Take that as a cautionary tale.
@Massimo2002. This is less important then the part I quoted in #26 but very useful. I bolded the important part. I really want you to take caution from this woman I used to be with. Things did not go well for her because of how she views people.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs

Yah. Reminds me of a British comedian who got into trouble with the BBC many times due to his raunchy humor. I forget his name, it may come back to me, and he wouldn't be considered to be all that offensive today. Here's a quote ...

I like the girls who do
I like the girls who don't
I hate the girls who say they will and then they say they won't
But the kind of girl I like the most and you'll agree I'm right
Is the girl who says she never does, but looks as if she might
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
I don't mind desperate and needy if they're desperate and needy for 'me'. Not anyone, but 'me'.
Hmm, that bothers me a bit. Obsessed with you. Won't give up. hangs around outside your house. You sure about that?
No, how other women feel doesn't affect me. Physically, I like scrawny and long hair. I don't like the clean cut muscular type, which seems to be most sought after, so I usually don't butt heads with other women a lot.
I've rethought this one. I found that I had little success before I got married for the first time, then I got hit on by women a lot. It seems that (some) women like either unavailable* men or to take men away from other women.

* Did I turn out to be totally unavailable? None of your business. Well .... maybe not. ;)
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Woman are complicated. I mean they simplify life. Woman are frustrating. I mean they relieve stress. Woman are naggy. I mean they always know when they need the chores done. Woman are woman. I hate to love them and hate to hate them and I can't resist not resisting because woman scare me.

I'm not afraid.
I'm not afraid.
I'm not afraid.

I'm lying. I love to love them.

They still scare me. Here's something that scares me more than woman. Being viewed as a male chauvinist, over-compensating and arrogant *** hat by woman I like. Yeah, I'm a sensitive man.

"That an awful heavy box darlin. You sure you can handle breaking that one down? Let me go grab the cinder block for ya. You may need it to get it in the dumpster."

"I have a box cutter you moron"

"Don't threaten me missy. I'm trying to help."

 
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Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Women ignore me I'm invisible to them and it hurts I'm a man and I have sexual needs but women just don't seem to care about male sexuality unless they are getting paid for it or they find the guy to be handsome but I don't fit the bill so I get ignored and have to suffer through a life of sexual frustration and loneliness thanks women.
Sounds as if you have one hell of a misplaced sense of entitlement
 
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