The End of the World

[Popcorn]

The End of the World

No, the world doesn't end. The world keeps going.

When Jesus Christ returns, certain things will happen, and the circumstances will be different than what most Christians have imagined. For one thing, the Jews are saved. Yeah, I've heard it all before about how they rejected Messiah and will be burned in hell for it. But, that's not the case. If it were the case, it would have been so obvious that all the Jews would have already converted to Christianity and there would be no more Jews, but it turns out that the crucifixion and ressurection of Jesus Christ wasn't meant for to make Christians feel good on Sunday and then go watch football.

So far, the only denomination of Christianity that seems to be organizing themselves properly in the preparation for the Messiah are the JW's, where they are working towards overcoming the sin of idolatry and are rather mindful of the fact that the Israelites have twelve tribes. Because the Revelation is both the beginning and the ending of Christianity as a religion, it's purpose to seek out the souls which belongs among the Israelites and restore them.

Consider the State of Israel that exists today. Now, when you open your Bible, and you read in there about Israel, is that imaginary or is that a real place on a real map? This isn't Zionism, this is something else. This is about asking why are you even called to be a Christian in the first place? Does God want you to be a disembodied ghost floating around in the sky, or does God want you to be ressurected to everlasting life upon the earth?

The Jews don't seem to have these issues, they know who they are since Moses, and they have kept all the commandments to the best of their abilities despite whatever hardships and troubles they've had to endure. That is, in and of itself, a miracle. Meanwhile, the Christians, every generation seems to dispose of the commandments, opting to replace them with whatever suits their fancy at the time. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and if Jesus Christ is the Word, then the Word is the Son of God, and is that not what Moses gave to the Israelites?

Is the Bible not his flesh? Is the Faith not his blood?

Hopefully this is a challenging discussion.
Thanks for comments.
Peace.

 

[psychoslice]

For me personally, the world is ending for someone every day, so why worry about a future ending ????.

 

[Nietzsche]

It should be mentioned that what one finds in Revelations, and through most of the NT, should not be translated as "End of the World". The term used, 'aeon', can be translated as "world". But it is more often translated as era or epoch, or to further simplify "End of the/an Age". Why? Because Greek has a word that means "physical world". It's 'kosmos'.

 

[leibowde84]

The End of the World

No, the world doesn't end. The world keeps going.

When Jesus Christ returns, certain things will happen, and the circumstances will be different than what most Christians have imagined. For one thing, the Jews are saved. Yeah, I've heard it all before about how they rejected Messiah and will be burned in hell for it. But, that's not the case. If it were the case, it would have been so obvious that all the Jews would have already converted to Christianity and there would be no more Jews, but it turns out that the crucifixion and ressurection of Jesus Christ wasn't meant for to make Christians feel good on Sunday and then go watch football.

So far, the only denomination of Christianity that seems to be organizing themselves properly in the preparation for the Messiah are the JW's, where they are working towards overcoming the sin of idolatry and are rather mindful of the fact that the Israelites have twelve tribes. Because the Revelation is both the beginning and the ending of Christianity as a religion, it's purpose to seek out the souls which belongs among the Israelites and restore them.

Consider the State of Israel that exists today. Now, when you open your Bible, and you read in there about Israel, is that imaginary or is that a real place on a real map? This isn't Zionism, this is something else. This is about asking why are you even called to be a Christian in the first place? Does God want you to be a disembodied ghost floating around in the sky, or does God want you to be ressurected to everlasting life upon the earth?

The Jews don't seem to have these issues, they know who they are since Moses, and they have kept all the commandments to the best of their abilities despite whatever hardships and troubles they've had to endure. That is, in and of itself, a miracle. Meanwhile, the Christians, every generation seems to dispose of the commandments, opting to replace them with whatever suits their fancy at the time. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and if Jesus Christ is the Word, then the Word is the Son of God, and is that not what Moses gave to the Israelites?

Is the Bible not his flesh? Is the Faith not his blood?

Hopefully this is a challenging discussion.
Thanks for comments.
Peace.

I'm confused by your point about the Jewish people. You say that if they were not going to be "saved", that they would have converted to Christianity. I don't follow this at all. If Jewish people were not to be saved because of their denial of the messiah, why do you assume that they would all convert to Christianity and there would be no more Jews. Can you explain this leap in reasoning for me? Thanks for your help.

 

[Popcorn]

I'm confused by your point about the Jewish people. You say that if they were not going to be "saved", that they would have converted to Christianity. I don't follow this at all. If Jewish people were not to be saved because of their denial of the messiah, why do you assume that they would all convert to Christianity and there would be no more Jews. Can you explain this leap in reasoning for me? Thanks for your help.

That's not what I said.

 

[Popcorn]

Yeah... "same faith debates".

 

[Nietzsche]

Yeah... "same faith debates".

...

I really need to start checking what forum something is posted in. Sorry.

 

[12jtartar]

It should be mentioned that what one finds in Revelations, and through most of the NT, should not be translated as "End of the World". The term used, 'aeon', can be translated as "world". But it is more often translated as era or epoch, or to further simplify "End of the/an Age". Why? Because Greek has a word that means "physical world". It's 'kosmos'.

Nietzsche,
You are exactly right. There is another point here. The words meaning the end of the world, or age, have different meanings. Some mean the end of the Jewish age, 70 CE. Some times it means the end of this wicked age we are living in. To make sure which time period the Bible is speaking about you need to consult a Bible Concordance, or a Google Bible dictionary.

 

[Greta]

 

[12jtartar]

The End of the World

No, the world doesn't end. The world keeps going.

When Jesus Christ returns, certain things will happen, and the circumstances will be different than what most Christians have imagined. For one thing, the Jews are saved. Yeah, I've heard it all before about how they rejected Messiah and will be burned in hell for it. But, that's not the case. If it were the case, it would have been so obvious that all the Jews would have already converted to Christianity and there would be no more Jews, but it turns out that the crucifixion and ressurection of Jesus Christ wasn't meant for to make Christians feel good on Sunday and then go watch football.

So far, the only denomination of Christianity that seems to be organizing themselves properly in the preparation for the Messiah are the JW's, where they are working towards overcoming the sin of idolatry and are rather mindful of the fact that the Israelites have twelve tribes. Because the Revelation is both the beginning and the ending of Christianity as a religion, it's purpose to seek out the souls which belongs among the Israelites and restore them.

Consider the State of Israel that exists today. Now, when you open your Bible, and you read in there about Israel, is that imaginary or is that a real place on a real map? This isn't Zionism, this is something else. This is about asking why are you even called to be a Christian in the first place? Does God want you to be a disembodied ghost floating around in the sky, or does God want you to be ressurected to everlasting life upon the earth?

The Jews don't seem to have these issues, they know who they are since Moses, and they have kept all the commandments to the best of their abilities despite whatever hardships and troubles they've had to endure. That is, in and of itself, a miracle. Meanwhile, the Christians, every generation seems to dispose of the commandments, opting to replace them with whatever suits their fancy at the time. If Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and if Jesus Christ is the Word, then the Word is the Son of God, and is that not what Moses gave to the Israelites?

Is the Bible not his flesh? Is the Faith not his blood?

Hopefully this is a challenging discussion.
Thanks for comments.
Peace.

Popcorn,
Many things that are mentioned in the Holy Scriptures are not as they seem, until you do some research. Remember what Jesus taught, in Matt 13:10-15. In Heb 5:11, 2Pet 3:15,16. The Bible tells us that we must search for the truth of the Bible as we would for treasure, and if we do we will understand the fear of God, Pro 2:1-10.
We want to make certain of what we teach, because we are warned about false teachers, James 3:1. We want to make sure we do not stumble someone, Phil 1:9,10, Matt 18:6,7. Whether we know the TRUTH or not will determine our everlasting life, John 4:23,24, 2Thes 2:10-13. The Bible tells us that many want to be teachers, but the things they make strong assertions about, they actually don't know what they are talking about, 1Tim 1:5-7.
Now, please allow me to show you a few things from God's word, that maybe you have not thought about.
When Jesus came to earth, the Jews were expecting him at that time, because the understood the prophecy recorded about the coming of the Messiah, at Dan 9:24-27, Luke 3:15. Jesus did things that no one had ever done before, this to make it easy for the people to recognize that he was the Messiah, John 15:20-25, Acts 2:22, Heb 2:2-4.
God had told the Jews that the Mosaic Law Covenant was not a permanent covenant, but was to last only until the coming of the Messiah, Jere 31:31-34.
On the night before Jesus died, at the Last Supper, Jesus instituted The New Covenant, Luke 22:15-20, 1Cor 11:23-26.
The New Covenant is a much better Covenant than the Mosaic Covenant, because it is based on the precious blood of Jesus, the Mosaic Covenant on the blood of bulls and goats, Heb 9:19-24. The New Covenant superseded the old Covenant, Heb 8:6-13.
One of the important things that Jesus came to earth for was to remove the Mosaic Law Covenant, because it condemned to death, everyone under it, because no one could obey The Law perfectly, Gal 3:10-14, Rom 6:23, 7:6, James 2:10, Acts 15:10, John 7:19, 2Cor 3:6,7.
Remember, only those who were the followers of Jesus received the powerful gifts of the Holy Spirit, not one of the Jews that remained under The Mosaic Law Covenant received the Holy Spirit, Gal 3:1-5, Acts 8:14-18.
Another point to remember; it was only to the Jews that the Mosaic Law Covenant was given, Deut 5:1-3. Gentiles were never under The Mosaic Law Covenant, Rom 2:13,14. After Jesus' death no one was under The Mosaic Covenant, Rom 6: 14,15, even Paul who was a Jew said that he was not under The Law Covenant, 1Cor 9:20.
After the Jews turned away from Jesus, God then turned to Christians as His Chosen Ones. To understand how the Jews could become Christians, read the 11th chapter of Romans. Here a process the Jews, as well as the Gentiles had to follow, which was to be grafted into The Garden olive tree, which stood fo The Christian Congregation, in the first century.
Christians are Spiritual Jews, which means, of the heart, not because you happen to be a fleshly Jew, Rom 2:29,29, 9:8, 11:7, Matt 23:37,38.