The ERV's found in chimps and human DNA as evidence for evolution

[Numinous]

It is taught that the many many ERV's found in chimps and humans when DNA is examined lead us to conclude that this happened from a comment ancestor.

While this makes perfect sense to me, I still have one question that bugs me.

Is it not probable that humans, chimps and a few other species sharing such close and exact ERV's lived and migrated in the same areas, long long ago, and therefor were exposed to the same environments that lead to the ERV in the first place.

In other words, if a group of species today were around Las Vegas during nuclear testing, is it not reasonable to assume they might share many similarities if the DNA of those species were examined looking for ERV, or other indicators of virus attack?

For those not familiar with ERV, it is a trace of virus found in the DNA of humans and chimps, but at the exact same spots. Not just one ERV, but many ERV's are found, leading to the conclusion it has to share a common ancestor.

So who is the scientist here?

My next question is how do we know after reverse transcription, in other words from RNA to DNA, that the DNA "RANDOMLY" inserts into a hosts chromosomes, as opposed to being inserted specifically? Key word here being comparing random with specific.

 

[painted wolf]

Yes, we get exposed to the same viruses... but they wouldn't attach the same snippets of DNA in the exact same places if they were independently acquired.
They are not only the same ERV fragments, but they are in the exact same locations in our genome.

If you and I get the flu... the virus will attach in different places... if our father gets the flu as a child, we will both get the same fragment in the same place.

We know it get's inserted randomly because we've studied how viruses work extensively. Retroviruses are among the most studied things in science. If they inserted specifically, it would be much easier to fight them.

wa:do

 

[the gateway]

evolution can hardly be true....sure there were only 50 million people around Christs time.....how many do u honestly believe were around 10,000BC....not many! It would take millions of years for evolution to hold any truth but still u cant explain the chicken and the egg!

 

[Breathe]

I'm guessing you don't understand evolution too well, gateway..

 

[David M]

evolution can hardly be true....sure there were only 50 million people around Christs time.....how many do u honestly believe were around 10,000BC....not many! It would take millions of years for evolution to hold any truth but still u cant explain the chicken and the egg!

Oh, look. The same uninformed ignorant claims in multiple threads.

 

[Noaidi]

evolution can hardly be true....sure there were only 50 million people around Christs time.....how many do u honestly believe were around 10,000BC....not many! It would take millions of years for evolution to hold any truth but still u cant explain the chicken and the egg!

Hey, you know what? I'm actually coming round to your way of thinking. Your arguments have a persuasive quality that is rarely seen here. Where do I sign up?

 

[outhouse]

Hey, you know what? I'm actually coming round to your way of thinking. Your arguments have a persuasive quality that is rarely seen here. Where do I sign up?

he or she will be moving on shortly like so many before have that fit this exact profile.

 

[painted wolf]

evolution can hardly be true....sure there were only 50 million people around Christs time.....how many do u honestly believe were around 10,000BC....not many! It would take millions of years for evolution to hold any truth but still u cant explain the chicken and the egg!

Do you have anything constructive to contribute other than trollish spam?

wa:do

 

[Noaidi]

Do you have anything constructive to contribute other than trollish spam?

wa:do

Well, he's got me convinced. Open your mind, PW, open your mind....