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The extreme right in France is surging

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I don't keep up with France politics. Not my business.
However why the talk of the right? There must be a left.

There is a left, a centre, an animalist, a green and many more

The right seem to be leading.

Thats why i talk of the right

I wonder why you are getting involved on french politics when you don't keep up with french politics
 

We Never Know

No Slack
There is a left, a centre, an animalist, a green and many more

The right seem to be leading.

Thats why i talk of the right
I see.. there are a left and right. Basically two parties.
I wonder why you are getting involved on french politics when you don't keep up with french politics
I myself could care less. However asking a question of how there is a left and right but not two parties isn't getting involved in French politics. That isn't inquiring about any policies, what one or the others supports/doesn't support, or anything else.
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
From The Economist ...

AFTER THE first round of voting, an initial projection of the results suggests that France is likely to be headed for a hung parliament. As polls predicted the National Rally (RN), a hard-right party led by Marine Le Pen and her young protégé, Jordan Bardella, looks set to become the biggest party in the lower house of parliament. Ipsos, a polling firm, projects it will win 230 to 280 seats (including the Republicans led by Eric Ciotti)—up from just 88. This would fall short of a majority, for which 289 votes are needed. The New Popular Front (NFP), a left-wing alliance, could pick up 125 to 165 seats. Both the hard right and the hard left have put forward an alarming slate of foreign policies as well as reckless economic reforms that could weaken NATO and the West.​

There's nothing quite like a Putin - Le Pen - Viktor Orbán - Netanyahu - Kim Jong Un - Trump world ushering in the 21st century.


I do not follow European politics in any great detail, a shortcoming of mine, no doubt. Anyway, I have frequently heard that "the right" in the UK and much of Europe is, in many ways, essentially equivalent to a left of center democrat in America. If that is true, I wonder how alarming this "rightward" shift in European politics really is? I love that we have so many non-Americans here to give a firsthand perspective on the actual issues.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
I don't keep up with France politics. Not my business.
However why the talk of the right? There must be a left.


There is a left. They abandoned the centre ground some time ago, and have mostly been fighting among themselves since. Support for Macron's centrist Renaissance party has now collapsed, leaving the extreme right National Rally as the largest single party. The question is, can left and centre unite against the far-right, and will they have the numbers anyway, after the next round of voting?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
There is a left. They abandoned the centre ground some time ago, and have mostly been fighting among themselves since. Support for Macron's centrist Renaissance party has now collapsed, leaving the extreme right National Rally as the largest single party. The question is, can left and centre unite against the far-right, and will they have the numbers anyway, after the next round of voting?
Thanks for your reply. All I was curious about if there was indeed a left and right, i.e. two parties.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I see.. there are a left and right. Basically two parties.

I myself could care less. However asking a question of how there is a left and right but not two parties isn't getting involved in French politics. That isn't inquiring about any policies, what one or the others supports/doesn't support, or anything else.


Learn something.

List of political parties in France - Wikipedia
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
There's a left, a centre/centre-right, and a far-right.

I think you too could do with taking alooktal the wiki link i posted
There have been clise to 40 different parties that have had seats and maybe another 15 hopefully
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't keep up with France politics. Not my business.
However why the talk of the right? There must be a left.

From what I understand about France's parliament, how it works is that there are many different parties, but parties sometimes form alliances or coalitions in elections so that they have enough seats to control an absolute majority or prevent a rival party or alliance from doing so in the National Assembly (289 or more seats out of the available 577), one of the two parliamentary chambers.

Right now, Macron's centrist party may coordinate with the left-wing coalition, which includes different parties, so as to keep the coalition that includes the far right, spearheaded by Marine Le Pen's National Rally party, from enjoying an absolute majority in the National Assembly. So French politics naturally has the same left-right spectrum as any other country, but it is not a bipartisan system whether on paper or in practice, unlike its American counterpart.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
From what I understand about France's parliament, how it works is that there are many different parties, but parties sometimes form alliances or coalitions in elections so that they have enough seats to control an absolute majority or prevent a rival party or alliance from doing so in the National Assembly (289 or more seats out of the available 577), one of the two parliamentary chambers.

Right now, Macron's centrist party may coordinate with the left-wing coalition, which includes different parties, so as to keep the coalition that includes the far right, spearheaded by Marine Le Pen's National Rally party, from enjoying an absolute majority in the National Assembly. So French politics naturally has the same left-right spectrum as any other country, but it is not a bipartisan system whether on paper or in practice, unlike its American counterpart.
Macron was also affiliated with with the socialist party from 2006-9. Went independent, and now with the Renaissance Party. Make Europe Great Again?

Such indecisiveness and no wonder the result was not favorable. This guy switches channels on the fly. Very unstable man with no vision or direction.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
I do not follow European politics in any great detail, a shortcoming of mine, no doubt. Anyway, I have frequently heard that "the right" in the UK and much of Europe is, in many ways, essentially equivalent to a left of center democrat in America. If that is true, I wonder how alarming this "rightward" shift in European politics really is? I love that we have so many non-Americans here to give a firsthand perspective on the actual issues.
I don't think there is anything left of extreme right in the US. Universal health care is a radical concept in the US along with woman's rights.
 
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